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Open Community]]> :: Author: Diane]]>
]]>Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 9:28 am (GMT -6)
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Diane
See this thread for a state-by-state summary of what has been said here about specific moving companies.
"All that is needed for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing."]]>

Open Community]]> :: Author: ArchieWhite]]>
]]>Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 9:25 am (GMT -6)
Topic Replies: 11

Don't they then have to give in home estimates, and pay claims the labor they align with might cause?

Good to see you Diane, you've been missed.]]>

Open Community]]> :: Author: Diane]]>
]]>Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 9:16 am (GMT -6)
Topic Replies: 11

Shakybarnes wrote:

First -- Do NOT under any circumstance use MoveBuilder! My girlfriend made the mistake of contracting them in January for an interstate move, and we've been dealing with the ramifications ever since.

Being an ABF operation, perhaps it's not a true criminal scam. But might as well be one. Net result so far:

- Nearly all of GF's furniture was damaged to some degree.
- Many items are simply missing
- The estimate provided, based on phone con with MoveBuilder (Arkansas Best Corp), was radically underestimated.
- The movers who arrived were paid by the hour (a fact not clearly represented), and took many hours too long to pack, resulting in an unexpected additional charge.
- Tremendous difficulty in scheduling the drop off
- ABC corp was NO HELP AT ALL, blaming its contractor MovingStaffers, which itself may or may not be an ABC operation, hard to be sure.
- Even after everything was paid, Movebuilder (ABC) made an unauthorized mystery charge of about $1000 to GF's checking account, with the expected disastrous results.
- GF has hired lawyer and looking to sue.

It's proved to be an obscenely incompetent operation. The situation is made murkier because ABF contracted out the operation to another outfit called Movingstaffers.com, which ID's itself as a brand of a company called Albert Container Services. The same contact person uses contact info for both MovingStaffers and MoveBuilder, depending on the situation. Shady stuff, not sure who she really works for.

(As mentioned above, MoveBuilder itself is run by an Arkansas Best Corp. subsidiary called Moving Solutions Inc.)

In short, I'm shocked and appalled a real, public corporation like Arkansas Best is operating what appears for all the world to be a scam, and refuses to make it right. Good chance a judge will be sorting this out.

Please let us know what happens with this. I've always felt that it was risky for ABF to align with labor services in a situation where it really has no control over quality. It's obviously not a scam, but it has the potential to tarnish ABF's image.]]>_________________
Diane
See this thread for a state-by-state summary of what has been said here about specific moving companies.
"All that is needed for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing."]]>

Open Community]]> :: Author: Champaign]]>
]]>Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 8:31 am (GMT -6)
Topic Replies: 8

I just saw Pat yesterday and received the same brochure. It is awesome. Pat is extremely busy getting ready for the convention in Peoria next Monday and Tuesday.]]>

International Moves]]> :: Author: Noone]]>
]]>Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 3:42 am (GMT -6)
Topic Replies: 57

I'm happy to review any quote you get to let you know what type of fees are NOT included that you will need to pay.]]>

International Moves]]> :: Author: Noone]]>
]]>Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 3:39 am (GMT -6)
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International Moves]]> :: Author: Noone]]>
]]>Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 3:37 am (GMT -6)
Topic Replies: 1

Check with the airlines about the cost of taking extra luggage with you on the flight. For five boxes, this will be the least expensive way of getting the goods there.

Also consider saving the money, and replacing the goods. There are second hand stores and throft shops in the UK too.]]>

International Moves]]> :: Author: glub]]>
]]>Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 11:07 pm (GMT -6)
Topic Replies: 1

I am having a rough time with trying to ship oversees.

We are moving from San Diego to London and only want to bring books, clothing, some cookware and some electronics. I estimate about 5 large boxes. The big moving companies charge about $1000 on average - more than our stuff is worth. And usps ends up being about the same for a few small boxes...

Could anybody recommend a trustworthy company that could handle a small oversees move and not charge an arm and a leg?

Any help is greatly appreciated! ]]>

International Moves]]> :: Author: glub]]>
]]>Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 9:19 pm (GMT -6)
Topic Replies: 57

I was considering OSI, but now I'm confused, cause this tread has both positive and negative posts. Are there any updates on the company?

I have to say, that after reading the website I dropped some companies that gave me a quote without coming over.
But then I wrote to Rainier and Southern Wind and they also gave me quotes without even mentioning of coming to my place.
So at this point I am thoroughly confused.

What do you guys think? Any advice?]]>

Helpful Moving Information]]> :: Author: MusicMom]]>
]]>Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 9:03 pm (GMT -6)
Topic Replies: 1

Since you've got plenty of time (estimates expire after 30 or 60 days so you can't get it now) you can play around with your finances and your options and see what's your best fit, budgeting several hundred dollars extra just in case something else is needed along the way. You can go to www.navl.com and get a ballpark estimate for what a full-service move might cost. You can call some local movers to you and ask what their labor prices are if you were to hire a couple guys to fill up a freight trailer for you, and again on the other. You can compare the costs of a spring-ride freight hauler like ABF to the air ride haulers like Broadway Express. See if there's any of your furniture that you can sell and either do without or replace on the other end. Moving is an excellent opportunity to dump knick-knacks and excess clothing.

Make a list with the different combinations and figure out how much you can afford to get someone else to do as much of the work for you as possible. You might be surprised to find that you can indeed afford a full-service mover, then you can concentrate on getting the kids ready for their first camping trip. ]]>

Helpful Moving Information]]> :: Author: nearlythere]]>
]]>Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 5:06 pm (GMT -6)
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Can you please suggest what the most practical move will be for us as well as the most economical? We don't mind camping, but worried that that will be too exhausting. We may be well accustomed to camping, but 3 and 4 year olds need to learn the trade still.

Thanks for your advice.]]>

Open Community]]> :: Author: cltack]]>
]]>Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 3:27 pm (GMT -6)
Topic Replies: 6

The u-pack, we haul option sounds good with either ABF or Broadway Express also. Hopefully all will go smoothly with the move. We will keep you all posted on the outcome.]]>

International Moves]]> :: Author: proxy]]>
]]>Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 2:47 pm (GMT -6)
Topic Replies: 1

I would appreciate any tips and info, if you have any experience with moving to Canada.

The stuff that we own is:
1) one bedroom set (bed, dresser, mirror, cabinet)
2) 1 or 2 flatscreen tvs + plus some electronics and stand
3) sofa set + coffee table, dining table + 6 chairs, mirror, kitchenware and small appliances.
4) clothes

Some questions I have (approximations would be fine):

1) Approx. how much would it cost to move this stuff?
2) How long would it take for the stuff to arrive in NB?
3) Will it need to be shipped by trucks or by sea?
4) Because for the first 3 months I will be renting, can I split my shipment into parts and only ship the important stuff to get there when I arrive and then, at a later date, ask my relatives to ship the remaining stuff after I purchase a house? Would I lose much money if I do such separate shipping arrangement?

5) I can take my laptops with me on the plain, but what would be the best way to ship my main computer & 30" monitor? since I use this for work.

6) it looks like air canada allows 3 x 70lb bags per person (with star alliance, maybe I can acquire such membership before departure)

any advice, tips, clarifications would be really helpful guys!
thx in advance.]]>

Open Community]]> :: Author: MusicMom]]>
]]>Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 10:19 am (GMT -6)
Topic Replies: 1

Open Community]]> :: Author: rocklobster]]>
]]>Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 9:42 am (GMT -6)
Topic Replies: 1

Since we sold our house last fall we now have some of our stuff in a rental house, and the rest in a 20 x 30 self-store unit a few miles away.

Will the truck go to two locations to pick up our things? If so, will they charge extra?]]>

Report A Scam]]> :: Author: Movinghelper]]>
]]>Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 11:44 pm (GMT -6)
Topic Replies: 16

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Report A Scam]]> :: Author: MusicMom]]>
]]>Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 8:45 pm (GMT -6)
Topic Replies: 16

Report A Scam]]> :: Author: Movinghelper]]>
]]>Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 8:13 pm (GMT -6)
Topic Replies: 16

So if you are look at using Budget Van Lines, watch out!

I saw the order and the estimate and it was a good thing they did not show up.]]>_________________
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Open Community]]> :: Author: jbrousseau]]>
]]>Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 6:46 pm (GMT -6)
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Open Community]]> :: Author: BigLeeCalif]]>
]]>Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 6:31 pm (GMT -6)
Topic Replies: 3

The owner spent all the profits developing Gasahol, and I read something about him recently that he's become quite successful, and has a network of almost 1,000 alternative fuel stops.

The A's won the game, if I remember correctly.

A friend back in the day said his company would call a meeting, and say everyone in the room except....... still has a job.]]>_________________
"A wise man speaks because he has something to say. A fool speaks because he has to say SOMETHING."]]>

Open Community]]> :: Author: MusicMom]]>
]]>Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 4:48 pm (GMT -6)
Topic Replies: 2

I would suggest that you set aside your computer for a little bit until you find some movers in your home town, once who will come to your house and see everything to be moved and give you an ACCURATE estimate prepared by a trained moving professional, instead of asking you to fill out an online inventory and guessing at a price (even if they promise you won't pay a cent more, there's loopholes to that claim). Once you have som estimates like that, go back to your computer and check out the movers and compare prices and services to make your final decision.]]>

Open Community]]> :: Author: ArchieWhite]]>
]]>Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 2:01 pm (GMT -6)
Topic Replies: 3

BigLeeCalif wrote:

Just because a company has purchased the assets from a company, and employed some of the staff, does not mean that company #1 has to file for bankruptcy. And, a company purchasing the assets of another is under no obligated to purchase the liabilities.

And, usually when a sale of that sort is in the works, the workers are the last to know about it, so there would be no notification to them by the company to stop soliciting business. When I first got involved in the moving business the company I worked for took us all to an Oakland A's game, and at the conclusion met with us all in the parking lot, and said, "Oh don't come to work tomorrow. I'm out of business". I was lucky in that when I got home I had a message from the owner of a company who knew what was happening, and his message said, "Be in my office at 9am tomorrow, and be ready to go to work." I worked for that company for 14 yrs, before he sold his assets to another company.

A company looking to buy another moving company will only buy that part of the business that is profitable. Sometimes the business is so lucrative and revenue producing that a company will purchase the liabilities as well, because the revenue will offset those liabilities after a couple of years.

Art Haddow had dealings with Meyers, and some of his customers were also left high and dry, so you might pm him to see if he knows who's now on first.

Lee, that wasn't Stan's Vans, in Oakland was it? They folded owing us money, I was hoping maybe you would make good on it? Who won the game? That's a creative way to fire people, in the parking lot at a ballgame. We used to call employees up to the office to be fired by announcing over the loudspeaker...." Fred Jones, come upstairs, and bring your time card with you"]]>

Open Community]]> :: Author: BigLeeCalif]]>
]]>Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 1:52 pm (GMT -6)
Topic Replies: 3

And, usually when a sale of that sort is in the works, the workers are the last to know about it, so there would be no notification to them by the company to stop soliciting business. When I first got involved in the moving business the company I worked for took us all to an Oakland A's game, and at the conclusion met with us all in the parking lot, and said, "Oh don't come to work tomorrow. I'm out of business". I was lucky in that when I got home I had a message from the owner of a company who knew what was happening, and his message said, "Be in my office at 9am tomorrow, and be ready to go to work." I worked for that company for 14 yrs, before he sold his assets to another company.

A company looking to buy another moving company will only buy that part of the business that is profitable. Sometimes the business is so lucrative and revenue producing that a company will purchase the liabilities as well, because the revenue will offset those liabilities after a couple of years.

Art Haddow had dealings with Meyers, and some of his customers were also left high and dry, so you might pm him to see if he knows who's now on first.]]>_________________
"A wise man speaks because he has something to say. A fool speaks because he has to say SOMETHING."]]>

International Moves]]> :: Author: chrisatlas]]>
]]>Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 1:45 pm (GMT -6)
Topic Replies: 8

Is Laser a forwarder or local agent? If they are a local agent packing and loading then they need to have a license from the ICC. If you store items then you also need a license from the Commerce Commission for a warehouse license.- Illinois is regulated by the ICC.

chrisatlas wrote:

Is Laser a forwarder or local agent? If they are a local agent then we are regulated by the ICC here in Illinois and need to be licensed to handle any local work. The forwarding business is non regulated and all you need is an FMC or NVOCC license to ship personal belongings overseas. If they use a forwarder then they are only a local agent. Just curious which it is...
EuroUSA albeit are a good quality company they typically move everything into the UK as a consolidation point then load up trucks to the final destination- I think they might have recently opened in France now as well.

Bodes wrote:

Laser was indeed the most expensive of the companies we reviewed. While they did a good job packing in the US, we also had Euro USA in Germany, and their planning abilities are terrible.

I thought it was just Euro USA, but when we brought our issues up with Laser, they were rude and unsupportive of the customer. I would not recomment LI to anyone doing an international move. EuroUSA did not unpack and were in such a rush and they half-assed the job and left after 2 hours. Poor poor service and it is a reflection of Laser.

Again, customer service with LI is horrible and I would not recommend them to anyone.

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Open Community]]> :: Author: jbrousseau]]>
]]>Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 1:45 pm (GMT -6)
Topic Replies: 2