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<![CDATA[Subject: Re: Need recs for move from Jacksonville to Tampa -- providers listed<br />]]>Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:00 pm (GMT -6)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;<![CDATA[Old Baymeadows is an independant carrier that seems to have some <a href="http://www.movingscam.com/cgi-bin/link.cgi?url=http://bit.ly/2Ebe0O" target="_blank" class="postlink">blemishes</a> on their interstate operating authority that were apparently resolved in March, 2009.  
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The other companies you mentioned are all agents of well respected national van lines.  Suddath is the largest of the bunch and deserves their reputation.]]><![CDATA[<br />_________________<br /><a href="http://www.movingscam.com/cgi-bin/link.cgi?url=http://bit.ly/K0jMg" target="_blank" class="postlink">The 'Moving and Relocation' Examiner</a>]]>&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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<![CDATA[Subject: Re: U.S. Movers<br />]]>Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:53 pm (GMT -6)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;<![CDATA[Update:  I checked the CA license list for authority to move within the state, and found City Transport's license is still active.  There are additional Doing-Business-As names listed as:
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Liberty Van Lines
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Liberty Relocation
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US Movers
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US and Movers
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<![CDATA[Subject: Re: U.S. Movers<br />]]>Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:47 pm (GMT -6)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;<![CDATA[First of all, where are you moving to and from?  How did you find US Movers (or did they find you)?
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It's nice to see that Mayflower Moving &amp; Storage finally changed their name to something that wasn't playing off of Mayflower Van Lines.  I wonder if there was legal action involved.
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I Googled "U.S. Movers", "Santa Clara" and found an ad for US Movers with their old website of <a href="http://www.movingscam.com/cgi-bin/link.cgi?url=http://www.mayflowersf.com" target="_blank">www.mayflowersf.com</a> which now is entitled US Movers.  Under teh name Mayflower, they racked up several complaints with the FMCSA (click <a href="http://www.movingscam.com/cgi-bin/link.cgi?url=http://ai.volpe.dot.gov/hhg/SearchDetails.asp?ads=&amp;id=30845111&amp;id2=29644587&amp;f=search%3D3%26CNS%3D1%26CN%3Dmayflower%26DOT%3D%26MC%3D%26Submit%3DSearch" target="_blank" class="postlink"><span style="text-decoration: underline"><span style="font-weight: bold">here</span></span></a>), all in less than a year in operation.  The website doesn't list US Movers' license number (Mayflower's was revoked in Sept) and a search for movers in Santa Clara CA with the name US Movers yields nothing.  No incorporation under that name.  The license they used to have uses the legal name City Transport.
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So why don't you call them and ask what license they operate under?  If it's 1771869 or 652993, tell them "OK, Mayflower, thanks for your time and don't call me anymore."  If it's something else, let us know here and we'll show you how to look up the license and make sure it's valid.  But honestly, even if it is, this is a mover that closed up shop after a quick succession of complaints, and now has a clean slate to advertise with while still using the same business practices.
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</span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> 	  <td><span class="genmed"><b>Quote:</b></span></td>	</tr>	<tr>	  <td class="quote">Domain Name: MAYFLOWERSF.COM
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      mayflower moving and storage
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<![CDATA[Subject: Re: U.S. Movers<br />]]>Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:45 pm (GMT -6)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;<![CDATA[Is <a href="http://www.movingscam.com/cgi-bin/link.cgi?url=http://www.mayflowersf.com" target="_blank" class="postlink">this the US Movers</a> you're inquiring about?  If so, they're operating authority was granted as <a href="http://www.movingscam.com/cgi-bin/link.cgi?url=http://bit.ly/1xT28p" target="_blank" class="postlink">City Transport, Inc. d/b/a Mayflower Moving and Storage</a> and was revoked in September, 2009.  Click <a href="http://www.movingscam.com/cgi-bin/link.cgi?url=http://bit.ly/3XVCVf" target="_blank" class="postlink">here</a> to see their BBB report and you'll understand why.]]><![CDATA[<br />_________________<br /><a href="http://www.movingscam.com/cgi-bin/link.cgi?url=http://bit.ly/K0jMg" target="_blank" class="postlink">The 'Moving and Relocation' Examiner</a>]]>&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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<![CDATA[Subject: U.S. Movers<br />]]>Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 8:49 pm (GMT -6)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;<![CDATA[Hi! Has anybody had experience with U.S. Movers based out of Santa Clara, California?  <img src="http://www.movingscam.com/forum/images/smiles/icon_question.gif" alt="Question" border="0" /> Thanks
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<![CDATA[Subject: Re: Were you sent to MovingScam by &quot;The Movers Group&quot;?<br />]]>Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 7:51 pm (GMT -6)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;<![CDATA[Can't tell how many shipments they've done.  Are you asking about my comment about their 50% hostage loads?  I just meant that of 8 total complaints, 4 allege hostage situations.
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<![CDATA[Subject: Need recs for move from Jacksonville to Tampa -- providers listed<br />]]>Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 6:43 pm (GMT -6)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;<![CDATA[Hi,
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I'm moving a 1-bdrm place from Jax to Tampa soon and am working on the due diligence part, looking for suggestions or recommendations, preferably first-hand.  <img src="http://www.movingscam.com/forum/images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif" alt="Very Happy" border="0" /> 
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So far, I've gotten in-house estimates from Suddath and Old Baymeadows Moving &amp; Storage Co. 
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* Suddath's quote is much higher, about $600 more, but the company has great reviews and seemed extremely professional.
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* Old Baymeadows seemed fine, but has some horrible reviews in Google searches and I can't find anything on them in these forums. 
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I'm still waiting to hear from others I've seen recommended on these boards, including: 
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* Baymeadows Moving and Storage
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* Graebel
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* Hill's Van Service of North Florida (Mayflower agent)
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In the meantime, any experiences with these companies would be greatly appreciated. I can provide more info if needed.
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Also worth noting: I'm hoping to keep costs as low as possible (of course) but with space and weight issues, like a ridiculously heavy dining set, the DIY options are ruled out. I need others to lug these items down our three flights of stairs but just want a fair shake from a trusted mover.  
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Thanks!]]><![CDATA[]]>&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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<![CDATA[Subject: MOving laws regulations information<br />]]>Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 5:57 pm (GMT -6)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;<![CDATA[this covers all the laws including weight etc 
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<a href="http://www.movingscam.com/cgi-bin/link.cgi?url=http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regulations/administration/fmcsr/fmcsrguide.aspx?section_type=A" target="_blank">http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regulations/administration/fmcsr/fmcsrguide.aspx?section_type=A</a>
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<![CDATA[Subject: Re: Move from Greenville, SC to Aurora, Colorado<br />]]>Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 4:48 pm (GMT -6)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;<![CDATA[Well Mayflower did an onsite estimate at the house and came back with me packing $6000 for 13000 pounds and $1500.00 extra for them to pack. Not bad...I think the JBK internet offer is out...]]><![CDATA[]]>&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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<![CDATA[Subject: Re: Were you sent to MovingScam by &quot;The Movers Group&quot;?<br />]]>Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 4:37 pm (GMT -6)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;<![CDATA[Just out of curiousity.  How can you tell how many shipments they have hauled?  I see the number of trucks and complaints but not an order count unless I just overlooked it.  Also, I find it humerous that they quickly responded to the bbb complaints and have now skyrocketed all the way back to a D- rating.]]><![CDATA[]]>&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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<![CDATA[Subject: Please read this information on these companys<br />]]>Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 4:34 pm (GMT -6)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;<![CDATA[Anyone with law suites  or dealing with or trying to collect on defaults on
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Suraj Viswanathan and his moving companys DBA'S
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Get a loader
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Get a mover
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<![CDATA[Subject: Re: Cross America at it again...<br />]]>Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 3:11 pm (GMT -6)&lt;br /&gt;
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<![CDATA[Subject: Re: Moving to Portland<br />]]>Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 2:06 pm (GMT -6)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;<![CDATA[</span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> 	  <td><span class="genmed"><b>moving2portland wrote:</b></span></td>	</tr>	<tr>	  <td class="quote">...I was told that the moving coordinator will keep me in loop on any/all the changes, as the delivery dates that promised me were 9th/10th Nov, which off course now they are going to miss!</td>	</tr></table><span class="postbody">
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I'm confused.
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You state that you were promised del on 11/9 or 11/10...and then in a later post you seem to indicate that the end of the del spread is 11/18. What are the dates for the delivery spread on your Order For Service.
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The Atlas (off-peak) HHG transit time guide calls for a del spread of 3 to 17 days for a 2,500 pound shipment moving 1727 miles.
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If the carrier fails to meet the agreed delivery spread (as shown on the Order For Service) then the shipper is entitled to file a "delay claim" with the carrier. Delay claims are generally recognized as reasonable hotel expenses and 50% of reasonable meal expenses.]]><![CDATA[<br />_________________<br />Chris Noblit
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<![CDATA[Subject: Re: Moving to Portland<br />]]>Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 12:55 pm (GMT -6)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;<![CDATA[So... even though the carrier will not meet your delivery preferences, they haven't 'missed' anything yet. 
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Since there hasn't been an actual or apparent service failure, there's no reason to notify you of the change in driver assignments.  It's a three day drive to Portland from Kansas so the schedule is still 'doable'.]]><![CDATA[<br />_________________<br /><a href="http://www.movingscam.com/cgi-bin/link.cgi?url=http://bit.ly/K0jMg" target="_blank" class="postlink">The 'Moving and Relocation' Examiner</a>]]>&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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<![CDATA[Subject: Re: Moving to Portland<br />]]>Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 12:29 pm (GMT -6)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;<![CDATA[Yes it's Daniel's/Atlas....
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As for ETA - The spread is till 18th, but I was just told that the new pick up is 13th and they will "try" to deliver by 18th as per last day of their spread. 
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For the new pickup - Mine will be a 4th/last pick up after first three other pick-ups at other locations and they have no way of knowing if I will get bumped again! And probability of that happening is pretty high! Even though I hope not... 
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Not that it makes any difference, but my shipment weight was ~ 3100 lbs.]]><![CDATA[]]>&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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<![CDATA[Subject: Re: Moving to Portland<br />]]>Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 12:20 pm (GMT -6)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;<![CDATA[</span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> 	  <td><span class="genmed"><b>Quote:</b></span></td>	</tr>	<tr>	  <td class="quote">...the delivery dates that promised me were 9th/10th Nov...</td>	</tr></table><span class="postbody">
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You only shipped 2500 lbs but were given just a two day delivery spread on a shipment traveling 1800 miles? What is the agreed period of time listed on your Estimate/Order for Service form.
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It's not uncommon for a shipment to be 'bumped' from a driver's assignment because of changes in the load characteristics of other orders on-board.  Normally if you were never notified of a confirmed ETA, there's no reason to advise you of a schedule change unless it's apparent that the service parameters won't be met.]]><![CDATA[<br />_________________<br /><a href="http://www.movingscam.com/cgi-bin/link.cgi?url=http://bit.ly/K0jMg" target="_blank" class="postlink">The 'Moving and Relocation' Examiner</a>]]>&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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<![CDATA[Subject: Re: Moving to Portland<br />]]>Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 11:58 am (GMT -6)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;<![CDATA[This is with Daniel's (Atlas)?]]><![CDATA[]]>&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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<![CDATA[Subject: Re: Moving to Portland<br />]]>Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 11:26 am (GMT -6)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;<![CDATA[Update: So now that all my stuff is moved out on 2nd, I was told that it will be shipped to Portland on 4th of Nov and now it's 6th and upon my inquiry today I was told that the driver missed it and they will check on the availability of driver for pick up! This is height of un-professionalism that they didn't bother to inform me that they missed the pickup, even though I was told that the moving coordinator will keep me in loop on any/all the changes, as the delivery dates that promised me were 9th/10th Nov, which off course now they are going to miss! 
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<![CDATA[Subject: Re: Intl Move from Arizona to Australia - Omega Shipping?<br />]]>Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:43 am (GMT -6)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;<![CDATA[FWIW, I moved w Omega from Israel to FL, US, in 2002. I know, it's a long time since, but FYI, I had a <span style="text-decoration: underline">very </span>good experience w them. The crate arrived on time and all in good shape, after a relative short time. All, for only 300 bucks, which was a steal at the time. I negotiated the price stiffly. They packed it all before my eyes in a matter of minutes. It was not D2D though; I was a novice in the matter and didn't even think of the possibility, silly me, and they didn't mention it to me. So I took it myself from Miami customs to my house in my own pickup truck.]]><![CDATA[]]>&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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	<title><![CDATA[International Moves]]> :: <![CDATA[RE: Ocean Star International o...]]></title>
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<![CDATA[Subject: Re: Ocean Star International or OSIShipping<br />]]>Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 8:14 am (GMT -6)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;<![CDATA[Nothing will move quick or at all for $650 
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</span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> 	  <td><span class="genmed"><b>mca503 wrote:</b></span></td>	</tr>	<tr>	  <td class="quote">ok, maybe two pallets...I haven't seen my things in two years so, I thought it best to get a physical inspection since I've had quotes from $650 to £4500.
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That is a lot of variance!</td>	</tr></table><span class="postbody">]]><![CDATA[]]>&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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	<title><![CDATA[Open Community]]> :: <![CDATA[RE: Pac n Box and Premium Move...]]></title>
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<![CDATA[Subject: Re: Pac n Box and Premium Movers?<br />]]>Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 8:55 pm (GMT -6)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;<![CDATA[Are you moving a short distance within your local area, a long way away in CA or out of the state altogether?
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Unless I am mistaken, unless having California PUC authority allows you to cross over the state line (which I doubt,) then if you are moving out of CA it doesn't appear that either of these companies has a valid license to do the job.
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I could be wrong about this, but I can't find any licensing reference to "Pac n Box" or "Premium Movers" in the federal records, yet both of these companies websites say that they can move you out of state.  Maybe they are listed under some other d/b/a name.  If you are moving out of the state of CA, ask these companies for their US DOT # and/or MC #.  If they supply you with this information, come back and post again with the license numbers and we'll see what comes up.
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If you are only moving locally, it appears both of these companies have valid CA authority to do the job.  That doesn't mean they're good or bad, though and we don't seem to have any info on either company on the SuperList.
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Why don't you click the SuperList button at the top of this page, then contact some of the movers listed near you in the Northern California listings?  Real people have made the effort to post about their experiences here, whether good or bad.]]><![CDATA[]]>&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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	<title><![CDATA[Open Community]]> :: <![CDATA[Pac n Box and Premium Move...]]></title>
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<![CDATA[Subject: Pac n Box and Premium Movers?<br />]]>Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 8:19 pm (GMT -6)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;<![CDATA[Has anyone had experience with Pac n Box and/or Premium Movers?  Are they any good?  Thanx]]><![CDATA[]]>&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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	<title><![CDATA[Open Community]]> :: <![CDATA[Were you sent to MovingSca...]]></title>
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	<description>Author: <![CDATA[<a href="http://www.movingscam.com/forum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=479" target="_blank">MusicMom</a>]]>&lt;br /&gt;
<![CDATA[Subject: Were you sent to MovingScam by &quot;The Movers Group&quot;?<br />]]>Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 5:36 pm (GMT -6)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;<![CDATA[It's come to my attention that The Movers Group, a one-truck carrier in FL with the DOT number 1816661, is suggesting their potential customers come to MovingScam.com and read that they are NOT on the Blacklist.
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Newsflash, guys, the Blacklist has been gone for quite a long time.  <span style="text-decoration: underline">No movers are on the Blacklist</span>, so you're not really proving anything.
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Instead, we're suggesting people check out their movers through <a href="http://www.movingscam.com/cgi-bin/link.cgi?url=http://www.protectyourmove.gov" target="_blank">www.protectyourmove.gov</a> where one can see the complaints ratio, the license status, the address and phone number of the company, and how many vehicles they have at their disposal.  For instance, if you click <a href="http://www.movingscam.com/cgi-bin/link.cgi?url=http://ai.volpe.dot.gov/hhg/SearchDetails.asp?ads=&amp;id=30756603&amp;id2=29681187&amp;f=search%3D3%26CNS%3D1%26CN%3Dthe%2Bmovers%2Bgroup%26DOT%3D%26MC%3D%26Submit%3DSearch" target="_blank" class="postlink"><span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="text-decoration: underline">here,</span></span></a> you can see that as of Nov 5, <span style="color: red"><span style="font-weight: bold">The Movers Group has a 50% claim rate for holding loads hostage for more money</span></span>.  And that's all for moves completed in 2009.  
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Another place to go is the BBB, and although sometimes high ratings go along with dues payments, this is not the case for The Movers Group.  As of today, 4 of their 9 complaints in 2009 go unanswered, leaving them with <a href="http://www.movingscam.com/cgi-bin/link.cgi?url=http://www.seflorida.bbb.org/Business-Report/The-Movers-Group-92015917" target="_blank" class="postlink"><span style="text-decoration: underline"><span style="font-weight: bold">a solid F rating</span></span></a>.
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This is an informative post directed at a specific group of people, for the sole purpose of counteracting a deliberate misleading of customers.  <span style="color: blue">If your mover sent you here to read comments about them, odds are they're probably good comments that the company wants you to see.</span>  <span style="color: red">If they sent you here to see that there are NO comments about them, they are probably a brand-new company hoping to grab as much business as possible before they're discovered as a reincarnation.</span>]]><![CDATA[]]>&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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	<title><![CDATA[International Moves]]> :: <![CDATA[RE: Strange experience with St...]]></title>
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<![CDATA[Subject: Re: Strange experience with Stevens &amp; more<br />]]>Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 3:03 pm (GMT -6)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;<![CDATA[Rick, If I am not careful, people might think I know what I am doing. I would hate to get that rumour out there.]]><![CDATA[]]>&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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	<title><![CDATA[International Moves]]> :: <![CDATA[RE: Ocean Star International o...]]></title>
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	<description>Author: <![CDATA[<a href="http://www.movingscam.com/forum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=12444" target="_blank">mca503</a>]]>&lt;br /&gt;
<![CDATA[Subject: Re: Ocean Star International or OSIShipping<br />]]>Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 12:06 pm (GMT -6)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;<![CDATA[ok, maybe two pallets...I haven't seen my things in two years so, I thought it best to get a physical inspection since I've had quotes from $650 to £4500.
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That is a lot of variance!]]><![CDATA[<br />_________________<br />Poor Student]]>&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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