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Open Community]]> :: Author: LisaG]]>
]]>Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 3:40 pm (GMT -6)
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http://www.ushipguardian.com/

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Help Need to move to HI, Any body moved with this companies http://www.ushipguardian.com/
I Need a 20ft container load & unload.]]>

Open Community]]> :: Author: sehfoo]]>
]]>Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 2:09 pm (GMT -6)
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ABF quoted me $1900 door to door for my 1 bedroom + den apt move, from downtown Chicago to McAllen, TX. The terminal to terminal option is only $1200. I'm hiring a local Chicago moving company named Move-Tastic, which has many glowing reviews on Yelp.com, to move my stuff from my apt to the ABF terminal (about 20 miles from downtown). ABF will then bring the trailer to my door in TX. Movetastic will cost roughly $500 and ABF is charging $1550 for the terminal to door delivery. So, I'll pay about $150 more than I originally planned, however I also get a 3-man crew and truck from Move-Tastic to help on the Chicago side. My friends are excited about this too, as you might expect.

Just wanted to post this in case others in urban areas are considering ABF. My move wll happen in about 5 weeks. I'll try to remember to post my actual experience afterwards.

Happy moving

cascadia wrote:

Recommended: NO! (not good for city dwellers)
Date: August '09
Move: Chicago to Seattle
Cost: $2152 for 8' of space (incl $150 for arrival guarantee)

I have found movingscam.com very useful over the years and thought I'd do my part to contribute.

First, to make this balanced, in UPack's favor they have great customer service and they offer a much needed option in between DIY and full-service, however, I would not use them again unless I lived in the suburbs.

Second, I had just finished graduate school and packed an entire 2 bedroom apartment by myself with a newborn and a 2 year old (while hubby was back in Seattle), so by the time moving day arrived my stress levels were through the roof.

Third, as background, in the past 7 years my husband and I have made three 2,000 mile moves and two 200 mile moves (but always DIY). Additionally I moved many many times in college. So I am very well versed in packing and moving.

Lastly, we chose door to door service rather than terminal to terminal because loading and unloading multiple times plus paying for a local move took away the cost savings of UPack. However, doing a door to door move in urban areas turned out to be a complete nightmare and is really not UPack's forte.

Departing (from Chicago)
Coordinating UPack's 4 hour drop off window and 2 hour live load requirement with Chicago's 4 hour parking permit window and movers that we were paying by the hour was a disaster. UPack told me that I could narrow down the arrival window with my local dispatcher closer to the drop off date but as the day approached he continued to tell me that he had no idea when the truck would arrive during the window. Finally, the morning of the load, still faced with a completely uncertain arrival time, I spent $150 to guarantee a one hour window. Meanwhile our movers showed up early and it turned out that the police will not tow to enforce the parking permits to make way for the UPack truck.

I understand from an operations stand point that the window is helps UPack not overpromise but it was frustrating to get mixed messages on whether I need to buy the guarantee or could count on a high probability of timely arrival and save myself money. If you are dealing with parking permits and movers and a live load requirement, it is not feasible to work with such a wide window. I also got mixed messages from UPack about whether the truck would be able to double park or if the whole move would be canceled if we couldn't tow the cars which is critical to know.

To UPack's credit they worked with me in the end on the parking issue and the fact that my mover's showed up without the truck to help get some items in the UPack from my mom's place. And the truck showed up right on time as soon as I bought the guarantee. But the whole morning I was nervous wreck not knowing if I would even have the opportunity to get my stuff in the truck and when that would happen.

I feel I could have gotten better information from the local dispatch about the realities of doing an inner Chicago move and they could have been more forthcoming about how previous customers have dealt with such issues which could have helped me understand how to make the morning go better. I tried getting such information to do this at least a month in advance and was told that I should just phone closer to my move date which turned out to be useless.

Arrival (in Seattle)
The truck arrived in Seattle exactly on time (one week later). (Btw I found it incredibly irritating how vague most of the UPack phone reps were about the likelihood of timely arrival and the necessity of buying an arrival guarantee. I feel like these arrival guarantees are just a money making device and definitely lowered my goodwill toward the company. But that's another story.)

The driver arrived at 8:30a, well before I was expecting him (arrival window started at 9a) and was in a big hurry to drop the truck. We live on a hill with an incredibly steep grade and I was hoping he could leave the truck in our driveway but it wasn't flat enough so he decided to leave it on the street in front of our house. He was concerned about the incline but we were anxious to finally be done with this move (we were tired of camping out with 2 little ones, one with high fever at this point, and had a wedding to attend in 2 days) and assured him that our stuff was roped in. However, he parked the truck with the door facing downhill. We had been planning to unload ourselves but given how dangerous situation had become and that it seemed critical to unload ASAP we decide to hire movers last minute. however, our possessions had tilted dramatically in the parking process and removing any of them threatened to destabilize the entire load so we had to abort the move and ended up paying our movers $200+ for their time and were still left with an unloaded truck. UPack sent another driver out that night who determined that the truck could not be turned around or parked elsewhere and helped us lower the upper end of the truck to help straighten out the load. This proved insufficient though as the goods were so badly tilted at this point, so UPack sent two drivers out the next day (arriving at noon - 15 hours after the initial drop off.) These drivers were totally shocked that the truck had ever been left like this and QUICKLY TURNED IT AROUND IN ITS ORGINAL SPOT AS IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN PARKED ORIGINALLY. (Side note, our movers - Express Movers - frequently work with ABF unloads and were shocked that the driver had not parked the trailer with the door facing uphill as they would normally do apparently.) Once the truck was parked properly it TOOK US 2 HOURS TO UNLOAD OURSELVES.

To UPack's credit they definitely worked with us on trying to remedy the situation and the drivers and dispatcher were incredibly understanding and helpful. I definitely appreciate that. However, given how tight their schedule was, it took a long time to get each driver out which was incredibly stressful. Had the original driver parked properly we would have been saved considerable time, stress and wear and tear on our belongings and the cost of unnecessary/unuseable movers and an extra day for a small moving truck necessary for my mom's belongings. We trusted the drivers to make the best decisions and they let us down there.

Also, I have moved my belongings long distance multiple times and have never suffered so much damage to my possessions which I think is due to the less cushioned long distance drive, incredibly hot temparatures that the load was apparently subjected to (a few items were slightly melted), and the long time parked on a steep incline and the reparking.

In the end
I described my complaints in the customer satisfaction survey that I received from UPack but received no response until I finally filed a BBB complaint requesting reimbursement for the amovers and the extra day for the Budget truck. UPack politely declined and the BBB sided with them. I absolutely agree that we were responsible for signing off on the original parking position but we did so because we were desperate to unload and WERE GIVEN NO OTHER OPTION. Had the driver asked me if I wanted to door to face downhill or uphill I obviously would have chosen the latter and the latter was obviously an option as demonstrated by the third set of drivers.

I also understand that it is a stretch to ask that UPack pay for our unuseable movers/Budget truck delay but it was what it took to make me feel less bitter about the experience. I was told that I could submit a claim for damaged items but at a max reimbursement of $0.10 pound it did not seem worth the hassle. Additionally, it seemed hard to prove the damage was due to "negligence" on UPack's part, it seemed like normal wear and tear for them that unfortunately took a heavy toll on our goods. To limit damage to our items we probably should have packed less high and tight but that would have made the move considerable more expensive.

I just wanted some compensation on UPack's part that acknowledged that they could have done a much better job of helping us have a more satisfactory move and they have not been willing to make any concessions and retain goodwill.

Each set of drivers (as well as the driver in Chicago) talked about how much money ABF makes off the residential moves. While I think they have the potential for great value, the incredible stress and loss of wages due to the drawn out unload process and additional fees necessary to complete the move and guarantee a schedule made it hardly seem like a better deal compared to driving a Penske truck ourselves. Additionally the live load requirement in urban areas (only 1 hour in Seattle) makes it especially unappealing.

Bottom line: terrible option for anyone living in a city who can't do a terminal to terminal move and needs drivers/movers who understand the idiosyncrasies of moving locally. Remember that ABF is a freight company, the residential move bit is a just a money making side thing. They are incredibly good at their core business but the UPack business is not well suited for city dwellers who can't easily accommodate massive trailers on their street or very short load/unload times and who have possessions which are fragile.

I wish I had known all this last summer. I would have stuck to Penske. (Which btw is fabulous.) I assumed that because so many people on movingscam liked UPack that I would to. Unfortunately this was not so.
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Open Community]]> :: Author: JAHaddow]]>
]]>Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 7:23 pm (GMT -6)
Topic Replies: 3

They have been good friends for over 30 years.]]>

Open Community]]> :: Author: Derby]]>
]]>Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 4:18 pm (GMT -6)
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If anyone has had more recent experience with a Naples moving company I would appreciate knowing about it. I am particularly interested in companies that are recommended.

Thanks]]>

Open Community]]> :: Author: Rick]]>
]]>Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 3:09 pm (GMT -6)
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Open Community]]> :: Author: Derby]]>
]]>Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 2:24 pm (GMT -6)
Topic Replies: 3

Any personal experience you could share would also be appreciated.

Thanks,

Derby]]>

Open Community]]> :: Author: BigLeeCalif]]>
]]>Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 12:50 pm (GMT -6)
Topic Replies: 36

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Oh...and I almost forget...they have the 'Terminator' watching over them!

Who just made a lot of people happy yesterday by proclaiming he will not run for anything else again.]]>_________________
"A wise man speaks because he has something to say. A fool speaks because he has to say SOMETHING."]]>

International Moves]]> :: Author: Big Dog]]>
]]>Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 7:55 am (GMT -6)
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Open Community]]> :: Author: mike05bags@bellsouth.net]]>
]]>Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 7:41 am (GMT -6)
Topic Replies: 6

International Moves]]> :: Author: hotelinfoline]]>
]]>Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 5:39 am (GMT -6)
Topic Replies: 1

http://www.rishipackersmovers.com
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Open Community]]> :: Author: MusicMom]]>
]]>Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 5:03 am (GMT -6)
Topic Replies: 6

MusicMom wrote:

For a long-distance full service move, assume an average of $1 per pound for the final cost. Very ballpark.

You need to tell Moving 1 that you know they do not yet have a valid license to move people interstate, and should they continue to contact you for business you will be forced to report them to the DOT.

Not sure which address the actual workers wil be based at, but the bethea Road address is a warehouse and the website is registered to:

Quote:

Domain Name: MOVING-1.COM
Created on: 13-Jun-09
Expires on: 13-Jun-11
Last Updated on: 26-Aug-09

Administrative Contact:
shmueli, reuven rubishmueli@msn.com
19584 e countery club dr
aventura, Florida 33160
United States
(305) 776-9971 Fax --
(also has www.movers-123.com registered and redirected to the above website)

Reuven Schmueli, the name on the website registration, is listed in FL as being the previous owner of Statewide Van Lines (not related to the Statewide Van Lines in New Jersey). That company lasted fron Jan 2002 to Jan 2003.

Oh, and the truck on their website is a United Van Lines truck. But hey, if you look at their Coupons section, they'll give you a free flight of stairs! Anyone need some stairs?
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Open Community]]> :: Author: MusicMom]]>
]]>Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 5:00 am (GMT -6)
Topic Replies: 9

Do you know if there's a published list af failed attempts?]]>

Open Community]]> :: Author: Rick]]>
]]>Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 4:43 am (GMT -6)
Topic Replies: 36

Oh...and I almost forget...they have the 'Terminator' watching over them!]]>_________________
The 'Moving and Relocation' Examiner]]>

Open Community]]> :: Author: BigLeeCalif]]>
]]>Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 11:42 pm (GMT -6)
Topic Replies: 36

Quote:

Although BigLee is right about the abundance of background screened moving help being available, interested DIYers aren't shopping at licensed moving and storage company stores. They perceive the out-of-pocket cost to be much higher than at a self storage or container facility or casual moving labor service uncovered online.

Rick this may be true in some areas, but since we have a large footprint in the military community, we get quite a few inquiries regarding loading trucks/PODs, etc. What has been discovered is that a lot of casual labor staffing services don't provide extensive training. Customers discover that they spend more for a crew that takes five hours to half ass load a truck, as opposed to an experienced crew that can do it in half the time.

While I'm sure that staffing companies still get work, I think that in this area, their popularity has waned. Their business peaks during the summer months when most movers are too busy to provide the same level of labor for other than booked moves as during off peak times.]]>_________________
"A wise man speaks because he has something to say. A fool speaks because he has to say SOMETHING."]]>

Open Community]]> :: Author: Movinghelper]]>
]]>Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 7:23 pm (GMT -6)
Topic Replies: 6

VANLINES.COM
I just placed a false sales lead on a website that is using our Legal Business name illegally and they have failed to remove it. After I did that "Today" I received an email from VANLINES.COM. So they are obviously connected at the hip.

All of them are using domaindiscreet which you cannot get in touch with the company. Below is the information on Vanlines.com. Notice the Address
Registrant:
Domain Discreet
ATTN: vanlines.com
Rua Dr. Brito Camara, n 20, 1
Funchal, Madeira 9000-039
PT
Phone: 1-902-7495331
Email: f4f64dbe0a14115100c421fa3e37e347@domaindiscreet.com

Registrar Name....: Register.com
Registrar Whois...: whois.register.com
Registrar Homepage: www.register.com

Domain Name: vanlines.com
Created on..............: 1998-01-26
Expires on..............: 2019-01-25

Administrative Contact:
Domain Discreet
ATTN: vanlines.com
Rua Dr. Brito Camara, n 20, 1
Funchal, Madeira 9000-039
PT
Phone: 1-902-7495331
Email: f4f64dbb0a14115100b32936dfa53ee8@domaindiscreet.com

Technical Contact:
Domain Discreet
ATTN: vanlines.com
Rua Dr. Brito Camara, n 20, 1
Funchal, Madeira 9000-039
PT
Phone: 1-902-7495331
Email: f4f64dc00a14115100af5f47dbc68140@domaindiscreet.com

So whatever comes off of that site I will take with a grain of salt.

They are just a lead generator. The reason for the false lead is that it came up from searching our name. We are building a civil case against them.]]>_________________
For more information on moving or to file a complaint go to http://protectyourmove.gov]]>

Open Community]]> :: Author: Movinghelper]]>
]]>Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 6:59 pm (GMT -6)
Topic Replies: 36

Silence is acceptance for most people.

If you have information that some of the laws are being broken, I suggest you inform Sherrif Joe Arpaio of the occurance. He takes his job seriously:
Phoenix happens to be in his neck of the woods! Maybe they can work in Tent City wearing Pink Clothes!

Here is the information for whatever law is being broken:
Narcotics: (602) 262-DRUG
(602) 262-3784
1-877-STP-METH
1-877-787-6384
E-mail:drughotline@mcso.maricopa.gov

Political Corruption: (602) 876-1092
Vice: (602) 876-1092
White Collar Crime: (602) 876-1092
Other Major Felonies: (602) 876-1087
Animal Cruelty: (602) 876-1681

I look forward to seeing it in the news!
http://www.mcso.org/index.php?a=GetModule&mn=Sheriff_Bio]]>_________________
For more information on moving or to file a complaint go to http://protectyourmove.gov]]>

Open Community]]> :: Author: 4WeHelp]]>
]]>Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 6:23 pm (GMT -6)
Topic Replies: 36

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If you make your decision based on cheap prices, you will remember the service long after you have paid the price.]]>

Open Community]]> :: Author: 4WeHelp]]>
]]>Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 6:19 pm (GMT -6)
Topic Replies: 9

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If you make your decision based on cheap prices, you will remember the service long after you have paid the price.]]>

Open Community]]> :: Author: 4WeHelp]]>
]]>Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 6:17 pm (GMT -6)
Topic Replies: 6

http://www.vanlines.com/moving_company_info/Moving_1.html]]>_________________
If you make your decision based on cheap prices, you will remember the service long after you have paid the price.]]>

Open Community]]> :: Author: BigLeeCalif]]>
]]>Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 5:50 pm (GMT -6)
Topic Replies: 6

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"A wise man speaks because he has something to say. A fool speaks because he has to say SOMETHING."]]>

Open Community]]> :: Author: Rick]]>
]]>Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 3:44 pm (GMT -6)
Topic Replies: 6

http://bit.ly/4EwVpH

The Georgia Public Service Commission doesn't have anything on them either. http://www.psc.state.ga.us/transportation/carriersdata.asp

To quote to old adage "If it's too good to be true, it probably is". Check under the Super List button above for a reputable carrier.]]>_________________
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Open Community]]> :: Author: R0tten]]>
]]>Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 3:28 pm (GMT -6)
Topic Replies: 3

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Open Community]]> :: Author: mike05bags@bellsouth.net]]>
]]>Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 3:27 pm (GMT -6)
Topic Replies: 6

www.movers-123.com. Does anyone know if this company is legit as their price for our move and storage was very low compared to 4 other movers we had quotes from. I cannot find anything at the Georgia BBB or American Movers.com about this company. ]]>

Open Community]]> :: Author: Movinghelper]]>
]]>Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 1:39 pm (GMT -6)
Topic Replies: 9

Blue, Purple and Grey are not online yet

Grant Approval � BLUE
(5 States: CO, HI, IL, NJ, RI)

States Developing Implementation Plan for Approval � PURPLE
(4 States: FL, ND, VA, WY)

States Implementingan Approved Plan � GREY
(7 States+DC: CA, MA, MS, MT, NY, OK, WI)

PRISM Level 1 � RED Collecting/Validating USDOT Number of Carrier Responsible for Safety
(5 States: AZ, IN, LA, OR, PA)

PRISM Level 2 � YELLOW Enforcing MCS-150 Update
Checking Carrier Safety Status
Submitting Targeted Vehicles to SAFER
(3 States: GA, NC, TX)

PRISM Level 3 � GREEN Denying, Suspending, Revoking for Federal OOSO Bar Coding PRISM Specs
Enforcement Stopping Targeted Vehicles
(23 States: AK, AL, AR, CT, DE, ID, IA, KS, KY, ME, MN, MO, NE,
NH, NM, OH, SC, SD, TN, UT, VT, WA, WV)

N/A � (3 States: MD, MI, NV) Total PRISM States: 31]]>_________________
For more information on moving or to file a complaint go to http://protectyourmove.gov]]>

Open Community]]> :: Author: Rick]]>
]]>Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 1:20 pm (GMT -6)
Topic Replies: 42

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