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Open Community]]> :: Author: chaz4moving]]>
]]>Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 11:13 pm (GMT -6)
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Open Community]]> :: Author: John Adams]]>
]]>Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 3:56 pm (GMT -6)
Topic Replies: 5

My first reaction to the crazy premium from Rogovin and the unwillingness by Derosiers to give you a Not To Exceed may be coming from their level of comfort as to which direction this inventory is actually going to go. It looks as though Rogovin was willing to gamble and give you a Not To Exceed but with a 20% cap, most movers do a 10% cap, and that Derosiers is just avoiding the cap altogether as you may be going back and forth with the items that you intend to ship and he/she is unable to get a clear sense as to what you are going to send.

Be sure and be clear with everybody with regard to your intended list. Try to have your mind made up before you walk your movers through. If you cannot, have your mover create a separate list of "Unsure Items" so that you and he/she can go back and re-visit that list.

Ask for a copy of the inventory from all of your movers that you meet with to be sure they are listing the same items. That list should be formatted room by room.]]>_________________
Do your homework then trust your instincts]]>

Open Community]]> :: Author: GP6971]]>
]]>Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 3:24 pm (GMT -6)
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Open Community]]> :: Author: BigLeeCalif]]>
]]>Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 2:54 pm (GMT -6)
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Usually the old plasma/lcd tv was working just fine when it was loaded, but now it doesn't work at all.... even after being shipped upright with tipntell attached.

The other day someone alleged theft of some very expensive medication from her purse.

I haven't seen the 10k stolen item yet, but have seen expensive baseball card collections, coin collections, and heirloom jewelry.

In every case, there was no proof it was ever tendered, because it was not inventoried, and all pbo cartons checked off.]]>_________________
"It is better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt" Mark Twain]]>

Open Community]]> :: Author: BigLeeCalif]]>
]]>Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 2:49 pm (GMT -6)
Topic Replies: 5

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"It is better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt" Mark Twain]]>

Open Community]]> :: Author: Movinghelper]]>
]]>Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 12:32 pm (GMT -6)
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http://www.wtsp.com/news/article/236041/250/UHaul-pushing-illegal-workers-on-consumers-

TAMPA BAY, Florida -- It's a Fortune 1000 company ignoring Florida law; the 10 News Investigators discovered U-Haul is pushing unlicensed movers on customers, putting consumers at risk.]]>_________________
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Open Community]]> :: Author: wood5150]]>
]]>Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 10:40 am (GMT -6)
Topic Replies: 5

All intersate estimates will now be require to have this verbage included. Customers will need to opt out from full coverage and choose .60 cents.]]>

Open Community]]> :: Author: Movinghelper]]>
]]>Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 8:08 am (GMT -6)
Topic Replies: 5

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NEVER PAY A MOVER A DEPOSIT FOR INTERSTATE MOVING! IT COULD BE THE START OF THE BIG SCAM]]>

Open Community]]> :: Author: MusicMom]]>
]]>Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 8:05 am (GMT -6)
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Open Community]]> :: Author: Movinghelper]]>
]]>Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 7:53 am (GMT -6)
Topic Replies: 5

www.movingscam.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8038Similar

http://www.bbb.org/connecticut/business-reviews/movers/rogovin-moving-and-storage-company-in-new-london-ct-72000631

So it looks like you have one from an Allied agent and one from and Arpin Agent.]]>_________________
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Open Community]]> :: Author: ChrisFromCT]]>
]]>Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 7:46 am (GMT -6)
Topic Replies: 5

I tried to tell these guys the exact same thing
- give me a full pack, assume I will do pantry/cleaning supplies

The NTE premium had me worried. Here is the thing . . .random anonymous reviews of Rogovin are pretty bad on-line though nothing showing up here/bbb]]>

Open Community]]> :: Author: BillAdams]]>
]]>Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 7:43 am (GMT -6)
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My story: This past summer, a customer of mine moving within Greenwich, CT (wealthy community) was more than delighted when our crew presented her with a small plastic box they found in her basement during the packing. It had been hidden by her recently fired housekeeper, and had several pieces of jewelry that they had collected with the intention of stealing. The tennis bracelet alone was worth $10k.
They received a very nice tip.]]>_________________
Bill Adams
Finding good people is worth the effort you make.]]>

Open Community]]> :: Author: Movinghelper]]>
]]>Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 7:30 am (GMT -6)
Topic Replies: 5

One of your quotes has a full pack price but the other one has a pack by box price.
Make sure the apples are apples and oranges are oranges..

Also they all have a fuel surcharge, ins charge and origin and destination charges. Sometime this is clear to the customer but it is more for the back of the office and driver on those fees.

Some companies do not break it our because it only confuses the real price which is the bottom line.]]>_________________
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Open Community]]> :: Author: MusicMom]]>
]]>Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 7:15 am (GMT -6)
Topic Replies: 5

I don't think bumping the price up to give a Not To Exceed is in any way weird. A NTE quote sets a cap over which you cannot be charged, should your weight be more than estimated for the same number of goods the estimator looked at, but if your shipment weighs anything less than that 7500 pounds, you pay for that actual price. The estimator believes you have 7500 pounds either way. But just in case he's wrong, that premium covers the company from losing major profit. You can set your budget knowing that you'll either pay that amount or likely even less, and they're covered in case some of your stuff actually weighs more than it looks like.

If you don't like the premium, don't do it. You run a small risk of having to pay for the extra weight in case the estimator was wrong, but usually these professionally trained movers are very good at what they do, and the actual number will not be far off.]]>

Open Community]]> :: Author: Movinghelper]]>
]]>Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 7:11 am (GMT -6)
Topic Replies: 5

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NEVER PAY A MOVER A DEPOSIT FOR INTERSTATE MOVING! IT COULD BE THE START OF THE BIG SCAM]]>

Open Community]]> :: Author: Movinghelper]]>
]]>Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 7:03 am (GMT -6)
Topic Replies: 5

The Surface Transportation Board (STB) has issued its anticipated clarification to its previous decision in Released Rates Order, Amendment No. 5 to RR-999 which makes a number of changes in the way that shipment valuation will apply for interstate household goods movers. The changes become effective April 2, 2012.

The STB ruling represents good news for both consumers and the moving industry.
The changes will reduce shipper confusion over liability limits and consumers will be afforded an enhanced protection level which is more consistent with typical homeowner coverage on their possessions. The industry will benefit from simplified paperwork and a more straightforward valuation declaration process. The STB incorporated our suggestions regarding value levels and placement of the valuation statement on the bill of lading (and not the estimate form); they also granted flexibility regarding deductible levels and the appearance of the valuation statement itself.

New Notice Required on Estimate Form. The following notice must be placed in a prominent place on your Estimate Forms in at least 12-point type and it must include the bold-face type as shown:
WARNING: If a moving company loses or damages your goods, there are 2 different standards for the company�s liability based on the types of rates you pay. BY FEDERAL LAW, THIS FORM MUST CONTAIN A FILLED-IN ESTIMATE OF THE COST OF A MOVE FOR WHICH THE MOVING COMPANY IS LIABLE FOR THE FULL (REPLACEMENT) VALUE OF YOUR GOODS in the event of loss of, or damage to, the goods. This form may also contain an estimate of the cost of a move in which the moving company is liable for FAR LESS than the replacement value of your goods, typically at a lower cost to you. You will select the liability level later, on the bill of lading (contract) for your move. Before selecting a liability level, please read �Your Rights and Responsibilities When You Move,� provided by the moving company, and seek further information at the government website www.protectyourmove.gov.

New Valuation Statement Required on Bill of Lading. The new STB rule means that all initial estimates you provide for individual customers must include Full Value Protection in the estimated cost of the move. You can also provide an additional estimate, if the customer requests one, based on the 60-cents per pound level of liability. However, unless your customer waives in writing the Full Value Protection level of liability and specifically chooses the estimated cost based on the 60-cent per pound level of liability, the shipment MUST be transported at the Full Value Protection level of liability subject to your published tariff valuation charges.
To reflect these changes, the following Valuation Statement must be placed in a prominent place on your Bill of Lading forms in at least 10-point type and it must include the bold-face type as shown. The new Valuation Statement MUST be shown on your Bill of Lading; it is no longer permitted to appear on the Order for Service form.

If you elect to provide deductible levels of Full (Replacement) Value Protection, it is up to you to determine what the levels should be; they are no longer prescribed by the regulations; the amounts shown below are examples only; you can choose different amounts. You may also elect to limit the amount of your liability for undeclared High Value Articles; when you elect this option, you must include these provisions (as shown in blue) in the valuation statement that you use.

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THE CONSUMER MUST SELECT ONE OF THESE OPTIONS
FOR THE CARRIER�S LIABILITY FOR LOSS OR DAMAGE TO YOUR HOUSEHOLD GOODS
CUSTOMER�S DECLARATION of VALUE
THIS IS A TARIFF LEVEL OF CARRIER LIABILITY � IT IS NOT INSURANCE

OPTION 1 � The Cost Estimate that you receive from your mover MUST INCLUDE Full (Replacement) Value Protection for the articles that are included in your shipment. If you wish to waive the Full (Replacement) Level of protection you must complete the WAIVER of Full (Replacement) Value Protection shown below.

Full (Replacement) Value Protection is the most comprehensive plan available for protection of your goods. If any article is lost, destroyed or damaged while in your mover�s custody, your mover will, at its option, either 1) repair the article to the extent necessary to restore it to the same condition as when it was received by your mover, or pay you for the cost of such repairs; or 2) replace the article with an article of like kind and quality, or pay you for the cost of such a replacement. Under Full (Replacement) Value Protection, if you do not declare a higher replacement value on this form prior to the time of shipment, the value of your goods will be deemed to be equal to $6.00 multiplied by the weight (in pounds) of the shipment, subject to a minimum valuation for the shipment of $6000. Under this option the cost of your move will be composed of a base rate plus an added cost reflecting the cost of providing this full value cargo liability protection for your shipment.

If you wish to declare a higher value for your shipment than these default amounts, you must indicate that value here. Declaring a higher value may increase the valuation charge in your cost estimate.

The Total Value of my shipment is:

$ (to be provided by the customer)

Dollar Estimate of the cost of your move at Full (Replacement) Value Protection:

$___________ (to be provided by carrier)

Deductibles � You may also select one of the following deductible amounts under the Full (Replacement) Value level of liability that will apply for your shipment. (If you do not make a selection, the �No Deductible� level of full value protection that is included in your cost estimate will apply):

$250 Deductible (_ [Customer's initials]) � OR � $500 Deductible (_) (Customer's initials)

$750 Deductible (_ [Customer's initials]) � OR � $1,000 Deductible (_) (Customer's initials)

Dollar Estimate of the cost of your move with $ Deductible: $

(to be provided by carrier)

Declaration of Article(s) of Extraordinary (Unusual) Value � I acknowledge that I have prepared and retained a copy of the "Inventory of Items Valued in Excess of $100 Per Pound per Article" that are included in my shipment and that I have given a copy of this Inventory to the mover's representative. I also acknowledge that the mover's liability for loss of or damage to any article valued in excess of $100 per pound will be limited to $100 per pound for each pound of such lost or damaged article(s) (based on actual article weight), not to exceed the declared value of the entire shipment, unless I have specifically identified such articles for which a claim for loss or damage may be made on the attached inventory.

X__________________________ _

(Customer�s Signature & Date)

I acknowledge that for my shipment I have 1) ACCEPTED the Full (Replacement) Level of protection included in the estimate of charges and declared a higher Total Value of my shipment (if appropriate); and 2) received a copy of the �Your Rights and Responsibilities When You Move� brochure explaining these provisions.

X________________
(Customer�s Signature & Date)

------------------------------------------------------ OR -----------------------------------------------------------

Option 2 � WAIVER of Full (Replacement) Value Protection. This lower level of protection is provided at no additional cost beyond the base rate; however it provides only minimal protection that is considerably less than the average value of household goods. Under this option, a claim for any article that may be lost, destroyed or damaged while in your mover�s custody will be settled based on the weight of the individual article multiplied by 60 cents. For example, the settlement for an audio component valued at $1000 that weighs 10 pounds would be $6.00 (10 pounds times 60�).

Dollar Estimate of the cost of your move under the 60-cents option: $_. (to be provided by carrier)

COMPLETE THIS PART ONLY if you wish to WAIVE the Full (Replacement) Level of Protection included in the higher cost estimate provided (above) (on the prior page) for your shipment and instead select the LOWER Released Value of 60 Cents Per Pound Per Article; to do so you must initial and sign on the lines below �

I wish to Release My Shipment to a Maximum Value of 60 Cents per Pound per Article _ (Customer�s Initials)

I acknowledge that for my shipment I have 1) WAIVED the Full (Replacement) Level of protection for which I have received an estimate of charges; and 2) received a copy of the �Your Rights and Responsibilities When You Move� brochure explaining these provisions.

X________________
(Customer�s Signature & Date)

Increase in Value levels. The third change requires an increase in the required minimum level of FVP liability that must be provided for household goods shipments. The new minimum amount is $6.00 per pound, subject to a minimum amount of $6,000 per shipment. This means that you can offer your customers a higher level of value if you choose to do to, but the minimum amount that you offer must be at least $6.00 per pound times the weight of the shipment. So, for a 7,000-pound shipment, the minimum amount of FVP liability for the shipment would be $42,000 and the valuation charges that you have published in your tariff would apply for this amount.
To prepare for this new ruling by the Surface Transportation Board, that becomes effective April 2, 2012, you must:

Reprint your Estimate Forms to include the new mandated Valuation Notice,
Reprint your Order for Service and/or Bill of Lading Forms to remove the old valuation statement that is no longer in effect, and replace the old statement with a new Valuation Statement on the Bill of Lading only,
Increase your minimum Value Amount to $6.00 per pound (times the weight of the shipment), subject to a minimum valuation amount of $6,000 per shipment, and
Change the provisions of your tariff to reflect the new Valuation Statement and your applicable valuation charges.

For more information you go to http://www.promover.org/content.asp?contentid=10507]]>_
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NEVER PAY A MOVER A DEPOSIT FOR INTERSTATE MOVING! IT COULD BE THE START OF THE BIG SCAM]]>

Open Community]]> :: Author: ChrisFromCT]]>
]]>Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 4:57 am (GMT -6)
Topic Replies: 5

-linehaul 3848
-orgin 139
-destination 133
-total transport 4,111

-fuel surcharge 343
-ins surcharge 153
-packing full service - 1404

Total Price @7,500lbs is $6,012
When asked for not to exceed was given 7,443 (i.e. 1,400 premium on 7,500lbs for not to exceed)

Quote from Derosier (who i have used in the past for a local move without issues)

TRANSPORTATION 3,377.22
ITEM 60 - 4% 135.09
ITEM 135 - ORIG 101.01
ITEM 135 - DEST 97.30
FUEL SURCHARGE - 13% 439.04
Packing Charges: $ 1,022.34 Unpacking Charges: $ 18.78
DISHPACK 7 $225.48 0
BOOK CARTON 10 $77.1 0
3.0 CF CARTON 15 $174.96 0
4.5 CF CARTON 10 $142.17 0
WARDROBE 3 $47.4 0
MIRROR CARTON 10 $280.14 0
CRIB MATTRESS 1 $8.15 1 $2.04
KING MATTRESS 3 $66.94 3 $16.74 ( i have two queens)

Total 5190 at 6,500lbs

- says "to many variables for a not to exceed"

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I have more guys coming today. . (movers inc from this site)

What do you guys think of the crazy premium or Derosier's not wanting a not to exceed?]]>

Report A Scam]]> :: Author: slickmetal]]>
]]>Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 9:36 pm (GMT -6)
Topic Replies: 20

Jeff.Walker wrote:

They will actually appear in your outbox until the recipient reads them, then they will show up in your "sent" folder. If you're sure the recipent has read them, yet they still show up in your outbox, PM me and I'll see what can be done on our end, as I haven't heard of this issue before.

Thanks,
Jeff

Thanks for this info - as well as from admin and movinghelper. The machine I was using made it all seem glichy...Its all square now!]]>

Open Community]]> :: Author: chaz4moving]]>
]]>Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 9:34 pm (GMT -6)
Topic Replies: 5

Report A Scam]]> :: Author: Movinghelper]]>
]]>Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 9:31 pm (GMT -6)
Topic Replies: 12

http://www.movingscam.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=21254
You might want to call you DA in the area and let him know. It is all a planned event according to the indictment.]]>_________________
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NEVER PAY A MOVER A DEPOSIT FOR INTERSTATE MOVING! IT COULD BE THE START OF THE BIG SCAM]]>

Report A Scam]]> :: Author: MusicMom]]>
]]>Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 9:12 pm (GMT -6)
Topic Replies: 12

May as well join the ranks of the unhappy customers -no wait, competitors - telling the world what they might expect if they hire this company.]]>

Report A Scam]]> :: Author: almalm123]]>
]]>Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 8:51 pm (GMT -6)
Topic Replies: 12

By the way, I spoke with a Melissa in customer service, and it was laughable. She was the most unknowledgeable and sour person. She forwarded me to Vans Johnson's (the logistics person and supposedly according to Melissa, the second hand of the company) and of course he didn't answer. His message said, "Your call is very important to me." Again JOKES. I left another message and of course heard nothing back.

I want to hire a lawyer. Do I have a legitimate case?]]>

Report A Scam]]> :: Author: Movinghelper]]>
]]>Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 8:37 pm (GMT -6)
Topic Replies: 12

USDOT Number : 2247550
MC # : 725496

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Address : 3155 NORTH ANDREWS AVE. EXTENSION
POMPANO BEACH, FL 33064
Mailing Address : Same as above
Telephone : (954)861-2973

It appears they are a broker, so why the trucks on the webpage.
Dand B reports the following:
Neighbors Moving & Storage, Inc.
Claim this Profile
Address:
3155 N Andrews Avenue Ext
Pompano Beach, Florida
33064-2139
Phone:
Website:
Category: No Information Provided
No Information Provided
Local Trucking with Storage,
General Freight Trucking, Local This is My Company
SummaryPhotosContact: Louis Massaro Est. Total Employees: 30
Contact 2: Alex Woods Year Established: 2005
State of Inc: FL Est. Total Sales: $ 2,500,000.00

On ripoffreport.com they show the following:
Your Search | NEighbors-Moving
Approximately 63 Reports Found

You can see more connections at the following links:
http://www.corporationwiki.com/Florida/Pompano-Beach/louis-massaro-P203605.aspx]]>_________________
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Report A Scam]]> :: Author: Jeff.Walker]]>
]]>Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 7:42 pm (GMT -6)
Topic Replies: 20

Thanks,
Jeff]]>

Open Community]]> :: Author: chptrkrules]]>
]]>Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 7:35 pm (GMT -6)
Topic Replies: 3

Last summer I had a customer who's apartment got flooded, so the property company paid for everything, we packed and loaded her crappy ghetto stinky apartment and the next day she calls me actually crying, sobbing because the crew stole a $10,000 piece of jewelery. And I knew she was lying.

Today I had a call from a customer all pissed off (fake pissed off) because our crew stole a $10,000 piece of jewelery, a week after delivery.

Oh well, it's slow time and I thought y'all would have some good stories]]>