There appear to be a lot of bad guys in this industry. I would appreciate references to some good ones. Thanks for any help!
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We have a two bedroom apartment with some valuable furniture but not priceless. Also, we have an elliptical trainer and a weight set (450lbs). I believe we will dump the exercise equipment (will be marked when dropped from estimate).
Here's the info:
Meyer's Moving & Storage
Agent for Mayflower
Estimate = $4495.10 at 4000 lbs.
Agent for National Van Lines
Estimate = $4594.05 at 4690 lbs (110% of Est. = $5053.46)
Agent for Wheaton
Estimate (binding) = $6357.05 @ 5400 lbs includes shipper packing
Big John's Moving
Estimate = $6642.00 @ 5505 lbs
Big John's did say that they would try to match price if possible. I think they are a small shipper and wanted to combine shipments at the end of the month.
Fixed Price Moving Systems
Estimate = $2948 @ 655 cu. ft.
The estimate is binding... I am worried on several scores with this one, but the rep was very concerned that I understand my rights and that the contract was binding. It is so much lower than the other estimates that I am obviously suspicious.
Estimate = $3291.00 @ 16 linear feet
Estimate = $3357 @ 20 linear feet (I was really trying to over estimate)
Tomorrow I meet with Liffey/Allied and Victory/United. Victory was highly recommended by a friend in Armani human resources that has used them for several corporate moves.
Any advice? This move is out of pocket.
By the way, I grew up in San Diego, college at UCLA, and law school at Berkeley. I just spent a week in San Diego at a close friend's extended 60th birthday celebration. So I'm going home, sort of.
A couple of companies that you might want to consider.
Gold Service Movers (a Wheaton agent in White Plains) has some good comments on this website - http://www.movingscam.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2873 - and I've also heard good things about the founder, Sanford "Sandy" Gold. Supposedly his motto is, or was, "Service 'em until they cry." I think his sons now run the business, as is the case with so many New York City moving companies. One Epinions review said that the Wheaton over-the-road driver who picked up from Gold Service was bad, however.
Also, University Van Lines (an Atlas agent in Rahway, NJ) has 7 good reviews on this thread - http://www.movingscam.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3063 - more than any other moving company on this website except for ABF, BE, and Delancey Street Movers.
Of course, moving isn't an exact science and there can be glitches with any move. A lot depends on the character of the owner of the company and whether he has enough of a service ethic to do the right thing by customers if there are glitches. Obviously I am not a professional and all I know is what I've seen in the reviews here over the past two years.
Hope this helps.
Z1 wrote:Why dont you get a few more estimates???!!!!! Maybe it will confuse you even more!!!!
Z - Your sagacious commentary has enlightened us all. You're right... I shall join you in sticking my head in the sand.
Actually, we are going with Big John's. They are very customer service oriented and were willing to meet a lower bid from Liffey. We will see how things turn out this coming Tuesday.
One a related note, I have used JC Motors to transport my motorcycle in the past. I recently contracted them again. They have really been efficient, and their drivers have great respect for the bikes. Hopefully, I'll feel the same way upon delivery in CA.
Getting so many estimates only confuses the average customer even more. By the way, big johns does have a great reputation here in ny but i am not sure about the long gistance part. Ask them for a letter that states that they do all long distance on their own and dont subcontract to another mover. also have them state in the letter taht the price is binding if indded they did give you a binding. If they didnt, ask for one. DO NOT MOVE LOCAL OR LONG DITANCE WITHOUT A BINDING ESTIMATE!!!!!!
HLDM, please do get back to us about your move with Big John's because nobody has yet used them and posted a review. Oddly, someone else posted that "Lisa" at Big John's said they would quote only by cubic feet on an interstate move - http://www.movingscam.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3305. I have a feeling that there was some kind of misunderstanding.
The NYC to CA "lane" (as professionals call it) is a HUGE market so I'm anxious to identify companies that people can trust, as opposed to the very dubious and definitely to be avoided scammy company California-New York Express.
HLDM wrote:Wow! I really must apologize for my late response on our move with Big John's. Overall, I was very pleased with the experience.
Big John's is not the cheapest, but nothing ever is in NYC. Big John's did meet another quote from a competing firm (Liffey, I believe). As I stated, it was still a lot out of pocket, but all my things arrived in a very timely and unbroken manner.
The only strange piece regarding the drop-off experience was that the driver was the only member of the unloading crew. Somehow, I was led to believe that there would be one to two other movers to help. Fortunately, I was able to help unload without much difficulty (the driver had plenty of dollies and hand trucks). The driver also helped me move furniture upstairs and into place.
I would recommend Big John's to anyone moving interstate. They are very courteous and professional. They are not cheap, but in this case, you are buying peace of mind.
. . . I need to pull my receipt, but the final cost was approx. $5400. Weight... I'd need to check as well. I did tip the driver about $40 - I guess I was happy that he helped me get furniture upstairs.
The driver could have handled most of the move on his own. It would have been a little tough moving the couch, but two dollies would have made this possible.
Hope this helps. Like I said, not cheap, but our things did make it fine condition.
. . . the drop off driver was different than the pick up driver.
If it is helpful, please reprint my response.
I have put some things that I consider significant in bold and I would be interested in people's thoughts about this move.
Being that its an independent, unless the driver has someone that drives with him at all times, thats the risk you take. And sense at time of sell, the sales person has no clue as to who will be assigned to the shipment, again, they could make it sound better then it is, because thats what the customer wants to hear.
And not having an agent on the other coast in which to pool labor from, he is on his own to do what he can. That means doing it himself, or hiring people off the street. And of course the lesser of the two evils is doing it himself. Do it himself and hope the shipper helps, or hire labor off the street. In both regards, it wasnt what the shipper was told would happen.
Thus why the agency systems is nice. Now that doesnt guarantee those drivers hire from the assigned destination agent, but in more cases then not, (ALOT MORE) they do. And it gives them a source in which to get help.
I think one of the big selling points these type of companies make is the same driver, same crew from beginning to end. But I guess you have to ask yourself, if their shipping their crews out with their drivers, who is there to do the local work?
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I move back and forth all the time (hopefully this will be my last move!) and I've also had a good experience with Box Bros. I've also used CA to NY Movers and they were okay (late, but it got there in one piece).
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