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Postby guest » Tue Dec 30, 2003 1:27 pm

Has anyone had any dealings with Great Scott Moving CO. ? I believe I used them about 6 yerars ago with great results, but I am not sure. When I researched them / DOT nbr 604984 / they have no MIC number. In the box operation classification nothing is checked, but in lower right bottom of that section it states ...X APPLYING F. I don't know what that means. Their office is in DC. Any feed back would be great ..
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Re: local VA move

Postby Michael » Tue Dec 30, 2003 2:10 pm

Correct me if I am wrong here, but I believe it means they have no operating authority as of yet. This means they are not licensed to move you from point A to point B.

Also their DOT number under licensing and insurace comes up as does not exist. Thus they are not probably insured yet.

My suggestion, keep looking. Try Security Moving Systems and I know there are a few bigger name van lines there, just cant think of any others off hand. Try some word of mouth, especially if your moving locally. Can probably find a decent local moving company.

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Re: local VA move

Postby twalker » Tue Dec 30, 2003 2:20 pm

Guest,

This has come up before but I'm not sure that a definite answer was found. I just spoke with the Federal Program Manager for Commercial Enforcement at the FMCSA because I wanted to make sure that I gave you the right answer.

Basically what determines if a moving company needs interstate authority is if they are moving you across state lines between two different "commercial zones". The commercial zones are defined in civil code Title 49 CFR 372. The Washington D.C. specific commercial codes are addressed in Title 49 CFR 372.219. If they are moving you outside of the defined areas in Title 49 CFR 372.219 then yes, they will need their interstate operating authority.

You may also want to contact the Virginia Movers & Warehousemen's Association and ask them what additional requirements movers must adhere to in Virginia (such as types of insurance, licenses, etc). The Executive Secretary is Dale Bennett and you can reach them at 804-358-1448.

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Re: local VA move

Postby Tyrone » Tue Dec 30, 2003 2:32 pm

One thing to be careful of as you are looking for a mover in the DC area: I would strongly recommend that you AVOID any moving company based in Jessup, MD.

Jessup is "the" hotbed of scam movers in your area and I have been unable to identify ANY legitimate mover in Jessup.
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Re: local VA move

Postby Guest » Tue Dec 30, 2003 7:08 pm

Thankyou all for your replies. I am going to keep looking. There are soo many ; it is mind boggling.
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Re: local VA move

Postby Diane » Tue Dec 30, 2003 7:29 pm

There's a recent thread discussing many local movers in the D.C. area, most of which turned out to be blacklisted. It might save you some time to find it by searching on "namllih" (the name of the author, probably his real name spelled backward). The last I looked, namllih was still rather forlornly looking for recommendations on movingadvocateteam.com. You are in a real minefield there.
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Re: local VA move

Postby guest » Wed Dec 31, 2003 12:03 pm

My broker has recommended Town and Country Movers/ DOT 418499 / He says they did a great job for him, but they seem to have had a lot of accidents. Is this something I need to worry about ? The BBB gave them a satisfactory rating, and what is a DUNS number ? This site I must add is terrific; sooo much good information.
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Re: local VA move

Postby twalker » Wed Dec 31, 2003 12:23 pm

Guest,

Town and Country has been in business since 1977 which is a good sign. The only accident (if you could call it that) on their DOT Carrier Snapshot is 1 tow. They are a little bit higher than the national average on their Out of Service orders but it doesn't look alarming to me. I would have them come out and do an in-home estimate and see what they give you. Remember to get at least three in-home estimates. Town and Country would be one, so you've just got to find a couple more. :wink:

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Re: local VA move

Postby guest » Wed Dec 31, 2003 4:32 pm

Thankyou, Tim. I have one from JK moving. Thanx again :D
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Re: local VA move

Postby namllih » Sun Jan 04, 2004 1:00 am

I ended up using Gulliver's Mover http://www.gulliversmovers.com just this past week for a sucessful local move in northern VA. We did as much of the work ourselves as we could manage before our actual move with Gulliver's. We got boxes from work and the supermarkets packed them and brought them over ourselves with friends/ family. We primarily used Gulliver's to move all our furniture and some other boxed stuff. Gulliver's was very thorough in packing everything pretty well. I was especially leary of them moving a china cabinet we purchased just a couple months before we knew we would be moving. It is partially glass on 3 of the four sides and made it without a scratch. Because we were so leary of the moving process and did a lot of the work ourselves there was less for Gulliver's to move and we came a few hundred dollars under budget.
JK Moving was probably our other option if we didn't choose Gulliver's except JK quoted us an hourly rate that was about $20 more. We also seriously considered Quality Service Movers I think out of Sterling, VA

Thank you to everyone on these message boards for your input!
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Re: local VA move

Postby Diane » Sun Jan 04, 2004 2:35 am

Namllih, thank you so much for getting back to us on how your move went. I recall warning you that Gulliver's was blacklisted on www.movingadvocateteam.com. This is an example of how that doesn't NECESSARILY mean that people will have a bad experience. We'll never know whether Gulliver's was monitoring your posts on this website and decided to try to do well by you, or whether you were protected by its being a local move, or both. The important thing is that it went well. Congratulations and best wishes on your new home!
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Re: local VA move

Postby Guest » Sat Feb 07, 2004 2:00 am

Gulliver's did a great job moving my mom from one neighborhood in DC to another. Unfortunately they recommended a terrible moving company (American National/Admiral Moving and Storage) for me when I moved out of DC. I let Gulliver's know about those folks and hopefully they won't send anymore business their way.
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Re: local VA move

Postby California Bound » Thu Jun 10, 2004 8:03 pm

Guest,

I had a very similar experience. Gulliver's came very highly recommended by a friend in DC - they had just moved her locally and had really done a good job. However, when I went to them for a cross-country move, they hooked me up with Admiral/American National. Most of the nightmare was avoided because Admiral was a month late picking up my things, and I was able to get another carrier.

However, what concerns me is that I talked with Gulliver's about Admiral's reputation, BBB complaints, and other issues. They assured me that they would not refer other customers to Admiral. That discussion took place in August of 2003. Did they recommend Admiral to you after that time?
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Re: local VA move

Postby MusicMom » Thu Jun 10, 2004 8:54 pm

When you say "referred", do you mean they suggested you use them or you hired Gulliver's and Admiral showed up for the move? I'm sorry if this seems dense.
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Re: local VA move

Postby California Bound » Sat Jun 12, 2004 3:53 pm

Given some of the stuff that gets pulled by moving companies, that's not a dense question at all.

I hired Gulliver's, and they were up-front about the fact that Admiral would actually transport the goods across the country and unload them in California. Staff from Gulliver's planned to pickup, package, and store everything until Admiral's truck arrived. They weren't completely straightforward about the fact that once Admiral picked up the load, Admiral (not Gulliver's) was responsible for everything, and that the price quoted could be revised by Admiral if they so desired. However, I didn't ask all of the questions I should have, so this omission is partly my fault as well.

To be fair, Gullivers performed reasonably well on their part of the move. Everything was packed and moved into storage without incident, and while there were some dings and scrapes on a few things that came out of their storage unit, all in all they did a pretty good job. After Admiral was a month late for pickup and really giving me the run-around, Gulliver's was reasonable about refunding most of the money I had paid them. They also did not charge me for storage, which was the right thing to do. However, it was Gulliver's who intially scheduled me to move with Admiral, and they assured me that Admiral was a solid outfit.

I think Gulliver's just may be out of their league when it comes to interstate (outside the DC area) moves. Some Gulliver's employees used to work at Admiral, which is probably why they work with them, but these two companies are sort of a strange match. I'm not sure they should be painted with exactly the same brush. Gulliver's at least worked with me to reach a solution, and let me deal directly with the owner. Admiral just ignored me, passed me off to several different people, and generally gave me a different story each time I called.
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