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Mover from LA to Denver

Postby Guest » Fri Apr 21, 2006 11:07 am

We are planning a move in two months from LA to Denver. I got a quote from VIP Relocation that seemed reasonable and informed - then found this website, only to discover that VIP is not reliable.

Does anyone have any positive recommendations for moving companies?

I am now thinking of going with a larger company like Allied just to avoid the hassle - but would really welcome any recommendations I can get. I need to make a decision and book the mover soon.

Thanks in advance!!!

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Re: Mover from LA to Denver

Postby Guest » Fri Apr 21, 2006 2:05 pm

Try calling Lamberts Van & Stg in LA. Their # is 310/652/1555. They are an Agent for Allied, & I use them all the time for my LA work.

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Re: Mover from LA to Denver

Postby Guest » Fri Apr 21, 2006 2:43 pm

Thank you!!!

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Re: Mover from LA to Denver

Postby moverjim » Fri Apr 21, 2006 6:47 pm

Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 2:52 pm Post subject: Re: Moving


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Here is a summary post on LA movers. Be sure to report back and we can help discriminate among the estimates:

LOS ANGELES AREA -
Diane wrote:
Note: On the recommendation of moving professionals posting here, I advise against using Alex Moving (North American) in Van Nuys or any Bekins agent in the Los Angeles area. A group of Bekins agents declared bankruptcy in 2004 and stiffed employees and creditors. The agents involved are listed here - http://www.bekinsms.com/index.html

There is a horrible report about a move from CA with Bekins where there was damage and the van line refused to pay the claim, but the person didn't say which Bekins agent was involved:
http://www.movingscam.com/forum/viewtop ... =5856#5856

Los Angeles area (including Orange County) moving companies are given letter ratings by the Los Angeles area BBB. Those ratings have fluctuated over time. See the following post for some examples:
http://www.movingscam.com/forum/viewtop ... 7822#27822
I've given the companies' letter rating as of 2/06 in the listings below.

Allied Van Lines agents

--Beverly Hills Transfer and Storage (Allied) in Gardena.
This company has an "A" rating with the Los Angeles area BBB.
We have a good review by "Butterfly" for a move from LA to FL:
http://www.movingscam.com/forum/viewtop ... 9178#29178 (interstate)
There is a rave review by "Allan" for a large two-household move from LA to Atlanta. He singled out the BH Transfer sales rep, Barry Eisen, and the long-haul driver, Albert Smith, for praise. He gives his email address if anyone wants to contact him about the move:
http://www.movingscam.com/forum/viewtop ... 8901#38901 (interstate)
Another person ("dgoldyn") was set to use it for a move from LA to FL but never came back to report:
http://www.movingscam.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3430 (interstate)
Somebody posted that BH Transfer gave him a very high estimate ($3000 above Gentle Giant and Blue Chip):
http://www.movingscam.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=177 (interstate)

Atlas Van Lines agents

--Gentle Giant Moving & Storage (Atlas) in Hawthorne.
Gentle Giant used to be rated "A" but has slipped to a "B" rating with the Los Angeles are BBB. It has had 8 complaints over the past 36 months. It was praised by "Nancy" (works for a competitor).
One person ("Laurie") had a rather bad experience with them (delivery delay in the summer, but mainly communications problems with an employee named Patricia): http://www.movingscam.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2253 (interstate)
"GDBaer" liked GG's estimator (Mike) although she ultimately didn't go with them:
http://www.movingscam.com/forum/viewtop ... 7386#17386

Mayflower Van Lines agents

--Blue Chip Moving & Storage (Mayflower) in Hollywood and Hawthorne.
This company has a "B" rating with the Los Angeles area BBB (someone posted that it was a "CC" in July 2005 - http://www.movingscam.com/forum/viewtop ... 9597#39597). It has had 12 complaints over the past 36 months.
There is a good review by "damfino" of a move from LA to Boston, singling out Blue Chip's estimator and the driver for praise:
http://www.movingscam.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2533 (interstate)
http://www.movingscam.com/forum/viewtop ... 3732#13732
There are also good comments by "patkhu" on Blue Chip's estimator for a move from LA to Austin, TX, although she moved with another company:
http://www.movingscam.com/forum/viewtop ... 0687#20687
"GDBaer" said she chose them for her move from LA to DC mostly because of their great estimator, Michael Sarro, but we have no final report:
http://www.movingscam.com/forum/viewtop ... 7386#17386 (interstate)
Just an interesting note: in the case of all three posters above, the estimator came up with a weight ending in -98 or -99.
"Butterfly" liked Blue Chip's estimator too, but ultimately went with Beverly Hills Transfer:
http://www.movingscam.com/forum/viewtop ... 7012#27012 (interstate)

North American Van Lines agents

--Andy's Transfer & Storage (North American) in Glendale.
This company has an "A" rating with the Los Angeles area BBB. It received a quality award from the van line in 2005 (Customer Choice award).
We have a rave review by "JakeL" of a move from LA to NYC:
http://www.movingscam.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5749 (interstate)
We have a very good review by "latochi" of a move from LA to Chicago:
http://www.movingscam.com/forum/viewtop ... 1252#51252 (interstate)
We also have an excellent report by "jedd" on his move from LA to Philadelphia:
http://www.movingscam.com/forum/viewtop ... 1481#51481 (interstate)
And another person ("ajd") was set to move with them from CA to PA but never came back to report. This person chose them over Beverly Hills Transfer because Andy's was willing to give him a GNTE:
http://www.movingscam.com/forum/viewtop ... 3661#23661 (interstate)
We also have a good review by "damfino" of a local move with Andy's:
http://www.movingscam.com/forum/viewtop ... 3285#13285 (local)

--Beltmann Group (North American) in City of Industry.
Beltmann has many locations in the U.S. It is reportedly the largest agent moving household goods in the NAVL system. We have hardly any information on this branch. Although it has an almost unheard-of "AA" rating from the Los Angeles area BBB, industry people seem to think that there are better choices in Los Angeles.

United Van Lines agents

--Gemini Moving Specialists (United) in North Hollywood and Ventura.
This company has an "A" rating with the Los Angeles area BBB.
We have two very good reviews. The first is by "patkhu" (Lisa) for a move from LA to Austin, TX:
http://www.movingscam.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2699 (interstate)
The other is by "mdoats" for a move from LA to South FL, singling out the long-haul driver from United, Jonathan, for praise:
http://www.movingscam.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4474 (interstate)
We also have good comments about the Gemini sales rep (Cletis Harris) by a person ("Mickey") who was going to move with them, but she never came back with a final report:
http://www.movingscam.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=575 (interstate)
And there is a so-so preliminary review of a move including a baby grand piano from Santa Clarita to the Seattle area, mentioning communications problems:
http://www.movingscam.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5348 (interstate)
Another person ("hkornfeld") was leaning toward Gemini in Ventura for an interstate move from Ventura to VA but never came back to report. He said that a sales rep for another company told him that Gemini's Ventura warehouse looked like "a disaster zone":
http://www.movingscam.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2416 (interstate)

Independent moving companies

--ABC Moving Systems (independent) in Canoga Park.
This company has an "A" rating from the Los Angeles area BBB with 4 complaints over the past 36 months. It was praised by "Don't Shoot" (works for an Allied agent in LA, but used to work for them) as doing a high-quality job and having long-term employees. It is licensed for local and within-CA only:
http://www.movingscam.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6969

--Delancey Street Movers-Los Angeles (independent).
The parent company, the Delancey Street Foundation, has an "AAA" rating with the Los Angeles area BBB. Background, contact information, and multiple rave reviews are on its review thread:
http://www.movingscam.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4655

--Sterling Van Lines (independent) in Los Angeles/Bell.
This company has a "BBB" rating (just below A) with the Los Angeles area BBB with 7 complaints over the past 36 months. It has MC #290939 and website www.sterlingvanlines.com and should not be confused with the FL company on the Blacklist here.
Sterling in LA specializes in small moves going into and out of CA. I don't know whether it has tractor-trailers because I have seen only smaller trucks on the road. "Nancy" (works for a NAVL agent) has referred people with small shipments to the company and has said good things about it. She said that it sometimes brokers shipments out rather than hauling them itself. On interstate moves, it's probable that people's goods would be held in Sterling's warehouse until they had enough for a full trailer and transit times could be rather long, but this can be good for people who don't need their things right away. Pickup and delivery dates could be unpredictable.
Judging from posts here, Sterling frequently gives over-the-phone quotes based on an item list supplied by the customer or a weight estimate by another moving company. In reviews here, people have spoken favorably of Doug (sales) and Tony (dispatcher) at the company, and of the drivers.
No one else said this, but "kim" posted that Sterling required a 25% nonrefundable deposit to book a date and told her that they charge by "dimensional weight" rather than actual weight (dimensional weight is variously defined but it includes consideration of volume):
http://www.movingscam.com/forum/viewtop ... =1913#1913
Someone posting as "moving soon" remarked that Sterling said they would charge by dimensional weight for his interstate shipment, and he told me later in a Private Message that Sterling eventually dropped him when he started asking them a lot of questions (he went with Ship Smart instead):
http://www.movingscam.com/forum/viewtop ... 3295#33295
Someone else ("jen74") posted that Sterling was going to charge her about 40% extra for a definite pickup date on a very small shipment from DE to LA. It seemed as if she was going to go with them (she said they were much more responsive than ShipSmart) but she never came back with a final report:
http://www.movingscam.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3456
We have a very good review by "nowhere" of a within-CA move from LA to San Jose:
http://www.movingscam.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2306 (within CA)
We also have a very good review by "cathie" on a CA to MD shipment. It took three weeks to cross the country but she didn't mind:
http://www.movingscam.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=33614 (end of thread)
We have a good preliminary report on a small move from LA to DC by "LA to DC" which was given to me in a Private Message. This is his initial post:
http://www.movingscam.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2053 (interstate)
There is a very good review by "Palo Alto" of a move within CA but it lacks detail and therefore is somewhat unconvincing:
http://www.movingscam.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6295 (within CA)
We have a basically good review by "janet" on a move from the LA area to Michigan, although transit time was very long and there was a lot of misunderstanding about when the delivery would take place:
http://www.movingscam.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5419 (interstate)
There is a review of a move by "memcnult" complaining that the shipment took two months to go from CO to San Francisco. It was on a truck rambling around the East Coast for weeks (http://www.movingscam.com/forum/viewtop ... 9968#39968 ). The poster states that the company is somewhat disorganized and maybe a bit incompetent, and says that someone commented that East to West moves may be more of a problem than the reverse:
http://www.movingscam.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5457 (interstate)
Another person ("dgoldyn") had Sterling cancel on him at the last minute, but they did find another company, Beverly Hills Transfer, to pick him up for a move from LA to FL:
http://www.movingscam.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3430 (interstate)

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Re: Mover from LA to Denver

Postby Diane » Sat Apr 22, 2006 12:18 am

Although Lamberts may be OK, I caution you against accepting recommendations from unknown posters like the one above. People should be willing to register here so there is some control.

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Re: Mover from LA to Denver

Postby Brett & Sho » Tue Apr 25, 2006 12:44 am

Thank you for your advice so far Diane. This board is awesome. So far we have scheduled an in home estimate with Gemini for Friday.

I was wondering about Broadway Express. Do they do full service moves? If not can you recommend a labor company to help load and unload?

We also contacted Moovers but they can not do an in-home estimate.

We also left a message with BH Transfer as well as Andy's Transfer but we have not heard back yet.

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Re: Mover from LA to Denver

Postby Diane » Tue Apr 25, 2006 1:09 am

Hi - Broadway does do full-service moves but usually only very close to their location in south central Illinois. The reason is that they have to have their workers travel with the driver in order to insure high-quality loading and unloading. They couldn't send a helper with the driver all the way to Los Angeles, for example--it would be too expensive.

If you want to use Broadway's self-move option, you could use workers from Delancey Street-Los Angeles to help load. Then in Denver you could use workers from www.LaborReady.com to unload, or there is a company called Amazing Moves with phone number 303-668-7444 that was recommended by "Jen" (see BE review #70) for local work. I'm not sure whether it's licensed.

You could in fact use Moovers for the whole move even though they aren't able to do an in-house estimate. They may be able to give you a set of possible weights and tell you what they would charge for each weight. For example (these figures are just plucked out of thin air and not accurate) $3500 for 4000 pounds, $2500 for 3000 pounds, $1500 for 2000 pounds. Your final price would be determined by the actual weight of the goods.

Here are some review threads with contact information:
http://www.movingscam.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2377 (Delancey)
http://www.movingscam.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4655 (Moovers)

The reviews on this website indicate that Gemini, BH Transfer, and Andy's Transfer are all very high quality.

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Re: Mover from LA to Denver

Postby Brett & Sho » Tue May 09, 2006 8:18 pm

Hi Diane:

We had three movers recommended on this site come out for in home estimates. I told all three that we had found them through this website and that they were recommended. Following is what they gave us and my impressions:

Bryan from Gemini Moving Specialists (United Van Lines Agent)
Estimate/Order for Service "Binding/Not to Exceed (Opt C)" quote
5073 pounds
$3465.67
Seemed very eager to make the sale, talked up his company quite a lot as if he were trying to convince me of thier reputation. He didn't bash any other companies but talked a lot about how superior United was as a company to work for and contract with over others. Seemed somewhat distracted during the inventory but didn't leave off anything that I could see.

Jim from Andy's Transfer & Storage (North American Van Lines Agent)
Estimate/Order for Service "Not to Exceed Proposal"
5390 pounds
$3176.17
Much more relaxed pitch told me a few good things about the company but didn't try too hard. He noticed the folder from Gemini and said they were a good company. Inventory appears to be complete.

Tim from Beverly Hills Transfer & Storage (Allied Agent)
Estimate/Order for Service "Guaranteed Price Pledge"
4920 pounds
$2906.33
Very relaxed pitch, told me a few good things about the company but also wasn't straining to sell me on the company. He noticed the folders from Gemini and Andy's and said they were good companies. Inventory appears to be complete.

Of the three I am leaning toward either the North American Van Lines agent or the Allied agent.

Any advice you can give would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks again,
Sho and Brett

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Re: Mover from LA to Denver

Postby Diane » Tue May 09, 2006 8:48 pm

Hi - all three are excellent companies as far as I know. As with any company, at this time of year you could have possible delivery delays or other glitches, but I think you will be just fine with any of the three. Thanks for the descriptions of the sales reps.
Diane
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