Moving from Los Angeles to Miami

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joclamp

Moving from Los Angeles to Miami

Postby joclamp » Fri Mar 19, 2004 2:59 pm

Thank God for this website!!

I was almost going to contract with someone over the internet. But luckily, I came across this website and have since canceled the order and have scheduled several in home estimates. Before I continue I would love any feedback regarding my move:

We are moving mid May from La to Miami. Although the move will happen mid May, We haven't found a storage space in Florida yet. We will be staying with family for a few months until We find a new home. Should I contract with the movers for storage or should I find my own facility in Miami?

Are there any reputable movers that you'd recommend in the LA area for this kind of Move?

Any other advice?

Any assistance you can provide is greatly appreciated.

Joe

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Re: Moving from Los Angeles to Miami

Postby BigLeeCalif » Fri Mar 19, 2004 3:13 pm

Hey Joe....

Glad you came here before making your final details. L.A. is California central to scammers in that area... So try to avoid any mover based in Van Nuys, Northridge, and Hollywood, unless you research them through the methods shown here...

For that area, I personally would recommend sticking with name recognition. Going with a major van line won't guarantee you a trouble free move, but will greatly reduce the probability.

Check the Black List at the top of the page, and that will give you an idea of what I meant when I spoke of the L.A. area and scammers.

Once you get your in home estimates, come back and we shall help you determine if they are legit..

Lee
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Re: Moving from Los Angeles to Miami

Postby Nancy » Fri Mar 19, 2004 7:05 pm

If you contract with a mover to handle your storage at destination, your goods will be covered by their valuation throughout the move and final delivery. If you find your own "mini" storage, the move from LA to Miami is considered over upon delivery into your storage unit. Therefore, if anything is broken during the move, you have to claim it while the goods are still in the storage unit. If you claim it after your later local move from storage to your new home in Miami, it would not be covered. The carrier would have no way to tell when the damage occured. However, if you store with an agent of the van line at destination, it is covered throughout.

By the way, storage rates are usually more competitive at origin. This is because the company is booking your move, and has the incentive to discount your storage. At destination, that agent is not receiving any commissions from your move, other than the storage charges. They would not have the incentive to give you a deal. So you may inquire about storage rates in L.A. and in Miami. If you store with a van line agent, you do not need to be present when the goods are loaded from the warehouse to the truck. You would not have to worry about returning to L.A. when the shipment is ready to move to Miami.

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Re: Moving from Los Angeles to Miami

Postby joclamp » Sat Mar 27, 2004 4:29 pm

Lee & Nancy:

Thanks for the advice. I've now had several in home estimates made and have to make decisions. All the Reps were very professional and impressive. Except for Phil's Moving/Atlas Van Lines, who would not give me a not-to-exceed quote. Regardless, I think I have enough of a group to choose from.

They are as follows:

Blue Chip Moving and Storage/Mayflower
13525 Crenshaw Blvd.
Hawthorne, CA 90250
(310) 978-2287
Cal/PUC-T-126284

Estimated 8,999lbs and gave me a 65% discount


Merit Moving Systems/United
5655 Dolly Avenue
Buena Park, CA 90621
(714) 522-3540
Cal/PUC-T-153854

Estimated 8,000lbs and gave me a 65% discount


Alex Moving and Storage/North American
7530 Hazeltine Avenue
Van Nuys, CA 91405
(818) 778-1400
Cal/PUC-T-164751

Estimated 8,600lbs and gave me a 64% discount


GeminiMoving Specialists/United
7241 Lankershim Blvd
North Hollywood, CA 91605
(818) 982-8919
Cal/PUC-T-76482
Estimated 8,860lbs and gave me a 65% discount


So the estimates range from 8,000lbs to 8,999lbs. The prices are very similar with a little room to negotiate. Do you guys know anythings on these companies? Again, they all seemed very professional. I told them I was getting several quotes and that price was not the final determining factor, in the hopes that they would try to sell me on value as to why I should go with them. The only rep that took the bait and was extremely detailed as to the benefits of moving with did so without ripping the competition but made their company (Merit Moving/United) stand out. My concern is that he was also the lowest weight estimate @ 8,000lbs. Should I be concerned?

Any help you can provide is greatly appreciated!!

Joe

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Re: Moving from Los Angeles to Miami

Postby Michael » Sat Mar 27, 2004 11:46 pm

Joe,

The only concerned I have is with a comment you made about Atlas and them not giving you a not to exceed price. Well most companies will not give a not to exceed price when storage is involved.

Let me fisrt say its great all your quotes came within 10-12% or one another.

Now here is the reason for not giving a not to exceed. Lets say you book and the actually weight comes in at 9500 lbs. It would be hard to find a driver willing to haul your goods that far at a 8000 lb. price. Just wont happen and I would almost guarantee you that the driver would protest and ask you to sign an addendum agreeing to pay for the excess weight.

Of course legally this should be invoiced to you since you did get not to exceeds.

And Nancy makes a great point about self storage and valuation. In order for you to claim anything, you will need to declare on your inventory that the box arrived in a different condition then on the load inventory and same with the furniture.

If you will be utilizing their storage facility, what type of discount did you get from them? Are they all comparable like the transit discounts?

Best of luck,
Michael
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Re: Moving from Los Angeles to Miami

Postby joclamp » Mon Mar 29, 2004 9:39 am

Michael, Nancy & Lee:

Thanks for the info on "not to exceed" quotes. How do I go about researching the above companies? Does anyone know anything about these companies? I have all their CAL/PUC numbers if that helps.

Thanks

Joe

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Re: Moving from Los Angeles to Miami

Postby Guest/Michael » Mon Mar 29, 2004 10:10 am

Jo,

With most of the companies mentioned you will find them under their sister companies, United and such with the Safersys site. So I dont know how much help that would be.

My suggestion would be to check out their web pages, if they have web sites. Go visit their locations if you can. And then I would just check your BBB for any negative marks against them.

Otherwise I think you are doing all the right things thus far.

Best of luck,

Michael

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Re: Moving from Los Angeles to Miami

Postby Diane » Mon Mar 29, 2004 11:44 am

joclamp wrote:The only rep that took the bait and was extremely detailed as to the benefits of moving with did so without ripping the competition but made their company (Merit Moving/United) stand out. My concern is that he was also the lowest weight estimate @ 8,000lbs. Should I be concerned?

Joe, I don't think anyone has actually answered your question, and I'm not in the industry so I'm not qualified to do so. I'm hoping that someone else will jump in here.

However, I can say that you are dealing here with three major van lines: United, Mayflower, and North American. Some people who post here wouldn't agree with me, but I feel that you are unlikely to have a problem if you use one of the higher-ranked majors. On Epinions, consumers have consistently ranked United highest among all the majors, and Bekins the lowest. The others are somewhere in between. North American is ranked higher than Mayflower, I believe.

All of the companies you are dealing with are likely to check out OK on www.safersys.org if you input their DOT numbers. Another factor you might want to look at is how long they have been in business. And I agree that if you have time, it would be good to actually go to their facilities and see which one gives you the best feeling about it.

If you liked the presentation by Merit Moving, and none of the "moverguys" here think there is anything wrong with the 8,000 pound estimate (except that I gather Michael thinks the driver may protest if he thinks the weight is higher, and may ask you to sign an addendum), then I personally would follow my instinct and choose Merit. There are no guarantees, because there are no laws to protect us in this country, but I personally think you are on the right track with this company.

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Re: Moving from Los Angeles to Miami

Postby Nancy » Mon Mar 29, 2004 5:21 pm

All of the agents you mentioned have good reputations in the market. I would honestly say that in terms of the carriers, you have made good choices. I would certainly ask the rep from Merit what you risk in their estimate being low. The next deciding factor is which salesperson really made you feel like they were going to provide you with good service, as well as visiting their facitilies.

Early on, you mentioned storage. Did you have them include this in your quote? Are they offering 65% at destination? Or are these for transportation only?

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Re: Moving from Los Angeles to Miami

Postby joclamp » Mon Mar 29, 2004 5:29 pm

Nancy:

The 65% discount was for transportation. Most offered 40% discount for SIT @ destination. But one of the reps said he'd try to get between 45% or 50% for SIT in Miami. For SIT at origination they all offered 60%.

Joe

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Re: Moving from Los Angeles to Miami

Postby Nancy » Mon Mar 29, 2004 5:53 pm

It sounds like the storage at origin will be cheaper, if that is a part of your final decision. I would definitely encourage you to visit the warehouses then to see how/where your goods will be stored.

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Re: Moving from Los Angeles to Miami

Postby Michael » Mon Mar 29, 2004 8:47 pm

Jo,

Its definitely going to be cheaper to store at origin then at destination. But agian, someone giving you a guarantee price with storage, I feel you run a good risk of your shipment being protested if the weight isnt right on.

Second, in regards to your items being stored at origin, you save more but conside your factors. Your goods are loaded by the local crew, so you will have not meet the driver who will load your goods from the warehouse who delivers your goods to destination. I dont think that should play to much of a role in your decision. Also keep in mind, that your goods will be handled one more time then if they were sent to destination and stored there. I dont think to many companies will place your goods in an open warehouse into its time to load for Miami. Unless of course it was for a week at most.

Those are just a few things you need to be aware of. I agree with this, you go with whom your most comfortable with. 8000 to 8900 is not a major weight difference amongst your quotes. Its almost 10%. I would be more concerned with a difference of 15-20%.

Best of luck
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