Anyone used a "You pack, we drive" company?

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mgbeamer

Anyone used a "You pack, we drive" company?

Postby mgbeamer » Fri May 30, 2003 5:04 pm

I'm considering using ABF U-pack Moving (see www.youpack.com) for an upcoming move to Florida. This seems to solve part of the problem when movers "double-weigh" your possessions to get more money at the end of the move, but I don't see any information about whether this is a good alternative to renting a truck and driving it myself.

If anyone has heard about this type of mover or has had any experience with them, please let me know--either here on the list or at mgbeamer@hotmail.com

Thanks much!!

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Re: Anyone used a "You pack, we drive" company?

Postby danolie » Mon Jun 02, 2003 2:50 pm

The good news is that company doesn't appear to be on the "black list" on this website... I looked at their website, and they look to be pretty solid. Just be extra sure. Check the BBB listings. It's not a broker, which is good. I'm using National Moving Network (broker) and Progressive Van Lines (the mover),a nd I'm afraid I'm getting screwed over. Both companys have negative reports on the BBB website.

ABF looks good. You are a step a head doing this type of research FIRST.

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Re: Anyone used a "You pack, we drive" company?

Postby nancypantsy » Mon Jun 02, 2003 7:47 pm

does anyone else know of similar moving companies? i'm thinking of going with abf also but would like to compare prices...

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Re: Anyone used a "You pack, we drive" company?

Postby Michael » Tue Jun 03, 2003 6:41 am

MG and Nancy,

Check the web site www.value-move.com. United Van Lines is also getting into the "supply the truck, you load and unload" business. Its limited in areas of the US right now, but at least its a way for you to compare prices and gives you another choice or option, if its available in our area. I am not aware if other majors(North American, Atlas) are doing this, but I am sure you can go to their websites too and see if they have any programs in place.

I also know there have been some positive responses in past boards on this site in favor of ABF. The main issue seemed to be that the customer had to make sure they had their own pads and straps, and sometimes walk board. So more of a convient issue then a personel or quality issue.

Good luck,
Michael
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mgbeamer

Re: Anyone used a "You pack, we drive" company?

Postby mgbeamer » Wed Jun 04, 2003 7:01 am

nancypantsy wrote:does anyone else know of similar moving companies? i'm thinking of going with abf also but would like to compare prices...


I found these other companies on the website www.moving.com:
ABF U-Pack Moving (800) 355-1696
City to City Moving (888) 723-2404
ValueMoves (888) 530-5899
Help-U-Move (561) 741-8846

I like ABF's presentation the best, and all the quotes I got back were about the same. I also like the fact that ABF provided the bulkhead materials--some of the companies expect you to build your own with plywood and 2x4's!

Anyone else come across more companies?

mgbeamer

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Re: Anyone used a "You pack, we drive" company?

Postby Josh » Wed Jun 04, 2003 8:02 am

You might want to have a professional mover come in and give you an idea of the weight of your shipment. Reason being, the pack and load options charge by the ,inear foot you use. The average is 400# per linear foot if loaded right and tight. So, if your shipment weighed around 4000#, you should use about 10 feet of truck space.

An important note with ABF, the trailer is spring ride which means the trailer is really bouncy on the highway. I have not heard and negative complaints and I have spoken to several people who have moved this way, but it is a concern I have always had. Moving companies use air ride trailers which is more of a cushioned ride.

I think ABF charges for a walkboard, and if you don't have one, it is about 4' from the ground to the trailer floor. Hope this helps!

Josh

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Re: Anyone used a "You pack, we drive" company?

Postby Josh » Wed Jun 04, 2003 8:06 am

MGBeamer:

I found these other companies on the website www.moving.com:


Moving.com has more rogue movers on their site than I have ever seen at one place. Be very cautious when looking at companies on that site!

I do have to say that I get a lot of business from there, about 15 leads a day, but I compete against some horrible companies!

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Re: Anyone used a "You pack, we drive" company?

Postby Bonapo » Wed Jun 04, 2003 8:07 am

Take a look at epinions.com. There you will find a whole range of user reviews for You-Pack. I'm leaning in that direction too for my move from Atlanta to LA.

Bonapo

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Re: Anyone used a "You pack, we drive" company?

Postby Slim » Sun Jun 08, 2003 8:14 pm

I'm using Movex which is also a self load mover. They use air ride trucks. They do charge by the linear foot which is frowned upon on this site but there are some reviews about Movex on this site and they are excellent. I didn't choose ABF U Pack because the truck is left at your property for a couple days. The Movex driver stays with the trailer and leaves when you are finished loading the same day which I had to have because of a tight parking situation. It is costing $1600 to move a 2 bedroom condo. Not bad.

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Re: Anyone used a "You pack, we drive" company?

Postby Guest » Fri Jul 11, 2003 5:21 pm

Ok, I am moving from Seattle to NYC (the village) and I've got to have the moving company all shored up by this weekend, next weekend at the latest. I'm completely petrified now from all the horror stories everywhere. My girlfriend and I have decided to sell a lot of our stuff (thank God) and just move the bedroom set, couch, dinner table and personal junk. Here's what I've come up so far (which isn't much):

Movex.net gave me a round-about quote for $1982 or $2200 depending on how much we thought we had. A couple of things raised a flag for me. First the whole "by the foot" thing, second a VERY bad review from the moving advocate forum (and suspect GLOWING review by "noob's"), third they're "in Florida" and Fourth ... the "join our moving team" link at the bottom of their web page. I guess any schmo with a truck can be a part of the "team".

I've got a Allied Van person coming by tomorrow for a quote. I'll try to follow all the guidelines I read and get as much info as possible, but there's just so much to remember. This is for their new Upack-we haul dealy.

I seem to be getting the idea that ABF is a decent outfit. But there is no room in Seattle or the Village for a freakin 28' semi to sit around for 2 days, so I think they are out.

We are seriously considering just moving it ourselves. I HATE the idea of driving across the country with a huge van, but the band of crooks that run these moving companies is just so daunting. I need my stuff there on time, and I only have around $2k to do this with. Hopefully much less!

What's really infuriating is that I haven't gleamed ONE name that is reputable out of 3 hours of searching. I now have three sets of people on my extreme hate list ... NYC apartment brokers, Used car salesmens and now Moving companies.

Next up for the next two hours ... trying to find a decent "u-haul" type truck price.

Nancy/Guest

Re: Anyone used a "You pack, we drive" company?

Postby Nancy/Guest » Fri Jul 11, 2003 5:44 pm

Some more bad news for you . . . . NYC has strick rules on what size trucks they allow into Manhattan. Most shipments going into NYC have to be "shuttled." Which means a very large truck transports your goods across the country, then the driver rents a small truck to shuttle your shipment into the city. It adds services and money to your cost. It seems like ABF should have some idea for you though, they must have some business in and out of NYC.

Can you provide any details on the Allied U-pack We-Haul? I've never heard of it, and didn't know any majors offered that service anymore.

Nancy/Guest

Re: Anyone used a "You pack, we drive" company?

Postby Nancy/Guest » Fri Jul 11, 2003 6:11 pm

Also, go to "search" and do a search by "mini." You will see a lot of names of small shipment specialists batted around. It's too bad people don't revisit the site to advise who they chose and how it went. However, it's nearly impossible to give a blanket recommendation of any nationwide company, for any service.

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Re: Anyone used a "You pack, we drive" company?

Postby Josh » Fri Jul 11, 2003 10:17 pm

O.K. Nancy,

I am going to give you a trade secret and it sounds like you didn't know this. I work for a "major" as most of you know and we have been doing these "you pack, we drive" type shipments for about a year now.

We are very successful at it, but not all of our sales reps know about it.

This is why I knew it would work from the first day I heard about it:

60% of Americans that move, do it themselves. That means that we "moving companies'" biggest competitor is the truck rental companies. If we offer a service comparable to what they provide, we can increase our business by, well a lot!!!

I do keep up with my competition, but I have to say that I did not know Allied was getting into this market. I will be on the phone Monday morning with a guy I know to confirm they are doing it.

But don't tell anyone at nA HQ cuz I already compete against you guys enough!!!

As for guest,

I was driving from an appointment a couple of weeks ago and saw an ABF trailer at someone's house. Of course the nosey person I am stopped to see how their experince was with ABF. They were really nice and the only problems they had were:
1. No walkboards, the truck sits 4' off the ground
2. Garfield Hts. OH police department (which is a small suburb of Cleveland) would not allow the trailer to sit on a residential street overnight. The problem this caused was that they had planned on a 2 day load, but were forced to get it done in 1 day. The good thing is that ABF was going to come back out that same day to pick the trailer up for them at no additional charge. I am not sure how the rest of the move went, but you better believe I slipped them a couple of my cards and told them who to call next time!!!

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Re: Anyone used a "You pack, we drive" company?

Postby Len » Sun Jul 13, 2003 8:26 pm

(I was the "Guest" moving from Seattle to NYC. )

The allied guy said he would call before he came out, but we haven't heard anything from him yet. That's really annoying since we really need quotes.

We have had some online quotes from Truck rental companies and a 15' trailer comes in at $2000 or so. That's insane since I have to pay for gas as well (~$650 at 1.50 x 3000 miles @ 7mpg).

ABF is currently going for $2600, which I thought was quite high. But I guess that includes shuttling costs. It still doesn't handle where I would put the 28' trailer. Seattle is seriously lacking in parking spots.

And on top of that I'm trying to find moving services for cars as well, which seems to be just as corrupt and filled with the same horror stories. I remember reading about services where you get a checked-out driver to drive your car across the country for you. But I can't find anything anywhere on the subject. I guess I could attach that $300 trailer on back of the $2000 budget trailer. But you can't even back up with those things on. I'm a good driver, but a 15' truck + car seems a bit much for me.

Anyway, thanks for all the replies. I will follow up on this and let everybody know how the move went and how we eventually got our stuff to NYC.

Happy Girl

Re: Anyone used a "You pack, we drive" company?

Postby Happy Girl » Thu Jul 17, 2003 10:10 pm

Good luck with the move, Len. Just know that when you get here (NYC) your Hate List will quickly grow MUCH longer!!! But WELCOME :twisted:


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